Nnwrf Racing Manager

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John, you never said he ran the rail at the time we were putting the dogs in the traps. I asked and you said you didn't know.

I'm not disputing you. :wacko:

 

[mutley]

if a dog is seeded inside and is NOT a true railer, then it will probably be a disadvantage to the dog ,

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I agree but not only that if said dog was in red with a genuine inside railer in blue it will severely disadvantage the genuine inside runner that not only rails round the first bend but also the second and will ultimately get pushed out through no fault of it's own.

I'm interested in Gary's statement and if there are any TRUE 1st & 2nd bend railers that will choose to run wide rail to pass another dog?? I personally don't think there are any.

I think i can count on one hand bend racers that have no preference to where they pass and which side they pass on - none of those dogs are seeded.

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never made any statement vic had an opinion but not what your saying thought it was jasper who said about 1st and 2nd

 

[rob67]

no disrespect to you Chris, but wont on k9 as Dee said it all gets twisted   taking a leaf out of the bwra book :- " and i think they do right   not having a dig at them  :thumbsup:   only posting as a k9 member not committee member ) will however reply if its to do with weights times or venues  :thumbsup:

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No disrespect taken but how as a member of the Fed specifically, is anyone expected to get clarity on issues that apertain to us all. I can write a letter or PM someone, but the answer will be universal, so why shouldnt it be aired in such a manner that everyone else can see and understand.

If you and tony are recognised by the fed as racing managers or the people who are responsible for helping people seed their dogs correctly then I would appreciate some clarity on how to seed dogs correctly because i want to seed my dogs, or not as the case may be, and i want to get it right.

If it's a seeding issue it needs to be understood and worked with by everyone. Maybe there could be some sort of guidance given at highgate then? perhaps on the back of the programme, not sure how it could be done, but I think it needs clarifying or those new to the sport will maybe not get the chance to understand.

If I ruffled feathers suggesting tony or gary respond then I apologise, but if you have designated people to deal with seeding I would have thought it only respectful to ask them first !Maybe the fed committee could come up with some definitions as they must have a lot of experience in seeding dogs to be able to actively try and better the sport. Same goes for the BWRA, will write to the committee if necessary, but the answers needs to be shared so as to create a fair and equal opportunity for everyone to race their dogs.

chris

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This statement was put on today by the NNWRF Chairperson for all to read after your resent inquiry /post Chris ...i think there is enough clarification for its members in it , if at any point you need to be told more , i am sure Linda will not hesitate to up-date you , or our members

Tony or Gary have not stated as of yet weather they are will to continue to carry on with their role observing the racing

NNWRF RACE MANAGER / SEEDING

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Why is it so difficult to for people to understand that I think it is important to have clarification as to the guidelines on how to seed a dog so that everybody is operating from the same set of instructions. If the fed is going to give people advice on how to seed their dog appropriately they must be basing it on something. Soz for banging on about this, but how difficult can it be to be specific about this.

Still dont see how you can seed extreme if there is no clarification as to the reason behind this.

chris

 

[mutley]

its not advise on how to seed thats just common sense Chris its if a dog is seeded incorrectly like seeding a dog just for the sake of it thinking its getting a better run :b sadly it happens hope this is enough clarification

 

[rob67]

its not advise on how to seed thats just common sense Chris  its if a dog is seeded incorrectly   like seeding a dog just for the sake of it thinking its getting a better run  :b sadly it happens hope this is enough clarification

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No it's not gary, it's not common sense, that only comes with an understanding of how seeding works. I'm beginning to wonder whether there are any definitions and whether there can be any seeding if this is the case. How can we expect newcomers to sort this one out for themselves if there is no clarification. I do think Linda as chairperson of the Fed needs to address this, in that case.

chris

 

[mutley]

you could do a good job as race manager Chris if your interested ) each person who has a seeded dog surly knows where it needs seeding not getting any further drawn into this in k9 :thumbsup:

 

[rob67]

no disrespect to you Chris, but wont on k9 as Dee said it all gets twisted   taking a leaf out of the bwra book :- " and i think they do right   not having a dig at them  :thumbsup:   only posting as a k9 member not committee member ) will however reply if its to do with weights times or venues  :thumbsup:

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No disrespect taken but how as a member of the Fed specifically, is anyone expected to get clarity on issues that apertain to us all. I can write a letter or PM someone, but the answer will be universal, so why shouldnt it be aired in such a manner that everyone else can see and understand.

If you and tony are recognised by the fed as racing managers or the people who are responsible for helping people seed their dogs correctly then I would appreciate some clarity on how to seed dogs correctly because i want to seed my dogs, or not as the case may be, and i want to get it right.

If it's a seeding issue it needs to be understood and worked with by everyone. Maybe there could be some sort of guidance given at highgate then? perhaps on the back of the programme, not sure how it could be done, but I think it needs clarifying or those new to the sport will maybe not get the chance to understand.

If I ruffled feathers suggesting tony or gary respond then I apologise, but if you have designated people to deal with seeding I would have thought it only respectful to ask them first !Maybe the fed committee could come up with some definitions as they must have a lot of experience in seeding dogs to be able to actively try and better the sport. Same goes for the BWRA, will write to the committee if necessary, but the answers needs to be shared so as to create a fair and equal opportunity for everyone to race their dogs.

chris

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This statement was put on today by the NNWRF Chairperson for all to read after your resent inquiry /post Chris ...i think there is enough clarification for its members in it , if at any point you need to be told more , i am sure Linda will not hesitate to up-date you , or our members

Tony or Gary have not stated as of yet weather they are will to continue to carry on with their role observing the racing

NNWRF RACE MANAGER / SEEDING

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Why is it so difficult to for people to understand that I think it is important to have clarification as to the guidelines on how to seed a dog so that everybody is operating from the same set of instructions. If the fed is going to give people advice on how to seed their dog appropriately they must be basing it on something. Soz for banging on about this, but how difficult can it be to be specific about this.

Still dont see how you can seed extreme if there is no clarification as to the reason behind this.

chris

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Ive stated in a previous post to you Chris my reason's why i will not clarify anything else on k9 to do with the NNWRF

After resent events on k9 Chris , i will NOT be clarify anything on k9 , as despite what posts i may make, certain members try to twist my comments into something there not ...i am sure you will understand [/quote]
Hope that answers your question ... I am NOT speaking for any other NNWRF committee person and weather they answer in k9 are not.

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I'm not asking you to state anything now denise, people have had the opportunity to suggest ways in which seeding can be defined, and nothings arisen. Perhaps it requires some thought, in which case before the first bends open of the season, maybe some clarification can be gained. It's ok not to have answers, but not ok to think that it doesnt need answering IMO.

chris

 

[rob67]

you could do a good job as race manager Chris if your interested  ) each person who has a seeded dog surly knows where it needs seeding not getting any further drawn into this in k9 :thumbsup:

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Couldnt do the job gaz as I dont think there is the clarification to do the job fairly and equitably. But thanks for the offer.

chris.

 

[mutley]

your welcome

 

[rob67]

your welcome

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Didnt know you could smile through gritted teeth gaz lol

 

[mutley]

 

[rob67]

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So you can then pmsl

 

[mutley]

sometimes

 

[kenny m]

so you after the red box then chris (w00t)

 

[rob67]

so you after the red box then chris  (w00t)

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Using my definitions I'm going for extreme inside kenny cos my hissy fit will beat anybodies !! lol

 

[Karen-Coral]

can anyone ansa this 4 me please? years ago am i right in thinking u cudnt seed inside but u cud if u were wide? I may b wrong but if im right when did seeding on the rails come in?also when did this (ridiculous imo) extreme seeding come in?

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The time was when we were running to an inside hare and having the rail ment you had a slight advantage by seeing the hare first --then all racing switched to the outside hare and things were altered to suit some---

hope this answers your question Carole---

Get rid of seeding /kickboards and get back to proper racing---

steve

 

[rob67]

can anyone ansa this 4 me please? years ago am i right in thinking u cudnt seed inside but u cud if u were wide? I may b wrong but if im right when did seeding on the rails come in?also when did this (ridiculous imo) extreme seeding come in?

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The time was when we were running to an inside hare and having the rail ment you had a slight advantage by seeing the hare first --then all racing switched to the outside hare and things were altered to suit some---

hope this answers your question Carole---

Get rid of seeding /kickboards and get back to proper racing---

steve

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Steve Boyd for prime minister I say !!

chris

 

[Trojan]

Extreme inside runner if dogs tail hooks around the rail all the way

Extreme outside runner if takes the paint off the wall :- "

Inside if dont like to pass on outside and sticks to rail all the way round as much as is possible and hangs back and waits for gap on rail

Outside if dont like to be in the bunch of dogs and prefers to run on outside (wide)

No seeding required - Fantastic if you've got a dog that will come out of trap run and pass either inside/outside where ever the gap appears and obviously is fast enough to do so, (how much do you want for this dog)!!!!!!

But its still luck of the draw if you have four inside runners or four wide runners in same race :wacko:

 

[rodders]

Think seeding extreme will make folk who have inside runners seed extreme just to get the red box :wacko: IMO :lol: ( love those letters) have inside and wide seeding and open drawing like the NNWRF already do.That way hopefully everybody is happy :- " :lol:

 

[marielou]

Extreme inside runner if dogs tail hooks around the rail all the way
Extreme outside runner if takes the paint off the wall  :- "

Inside if dont like to pass on outside and sticks to rail all the way round as much as is possible and hangs back and waits for gap on rail

Outside if dont like to be in the bunch of dogs and prefers to run on outside (wide)

No seeding required - Fantastic if you've got a dog that will come out of trap run and pass either inside/outside where ever the gap appears and obviously is fast enough to do so, (how much do you want for this dog)!!!!!!

But its still luck of the draw if you have four inside runners or four wide runners in same race :wacko:

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Absolutely brill :thumbsup: My dog isnt seeded how much you offering o Dont get too excited........hes a veteran