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Windsor Ch Dog Show

Northern whippets eat tripe at dinnertime and tripe at teatime,

Southern whippets eat something slightly poached at lunchtime and somthing on a tray at supper time.
 
JAX said:
The difference between Northern and Southern whippets is really easy









The Northern whippet  responds  to  Aye up me`duck , cum`eyr,  the Southern ` Come here sweetie ` darling  :blink:

. Northern  drinks out of good solid stone dishes.. the Southern , only the best china  (w00t)     ,

Youve got in one.

Northern dogs would rather chase the rabbit for tea,

Southern dogs would rather have the rabbit in a bowl and just chase the Fluff attached to a bit of string in clean field.

(w00t)    

Northern whippets are happy to wear ANY collar ,( bit of od` rope ud do ) not those diamonte things those Southern softies wear :- "

The Northern can catch his own dinner , maybe the Southern can too  ;)

The Northern thinks nowt about going out wi` out a coat on , not like the soft mamby bamby Southerners . :eek:  

Yep . MOST Northern whippets wouldnt be seen dead wi` a coat on  (w00t)

Any one else think of any other differances ?

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Yes I totally agree Dawn there are loads of judges that I admire but dont go under becauase they are looking for something slightly different than I have. I was really replying to someone who thought in an earlier post that they thought all judges should go on the standard and condition of the dog and it was unfair not to. I also agree with this and Im sure most judges do but if you personally think they are not then dont go. If they are looking in the other ring whilst judging your dog get someone to take some photos and report them to the KC ;)
 
Joanna said:
I am really interested in this North South business. I thought it was the other way around. From my perspective, you have a rectangular shape body with wide shoulders and heavy set, and the other type is the long necked, fine boned "S" shaped whippet. I thought the finer ones would be the Northern style, not the other way :wacko:
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See that's why no one can quite figure out what the 'north south divide' is. No one can even agree on what way round it is. I'm with you with what I thought it was. My whippets (bred up north) I'm told down here (Dorset) are northern, and they are longnecked, fine bones and curvy. I live and show in the south and I find the whippets down here are generally heavier boned and a bit stockier. All in standard, just different 'styles'.

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Wendy
 
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Wendy said:
Joanna said:
I am really interested in this North South business. I thought it was the other way around. From my perspective, you have a rectangular shape body with wide shoulders and heavy set, and the other type is the long necked, fine boned "S" shaped whippet. I thought the finer ones would be the Northern style, not the other way :wacko:
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See that's why no one can quite figure out what the 'north south divide' is. No one can even agree on what way round it is. I'm with you with what I thought it was. My whippets (bred up north) I'm told down here (Dorset) are northern, and they are longnecked, fine bones and curvy. I live and show in the south and I find the whippets down here are generally heavier boned and a bit stockier. All in standard, just different 'styles'.

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Wendy

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Thanks Wendy, glad you agreed with me :thumbsup:
 
In my mind I think of the southern whippet as the more classical fawn type, closer to standard in size, not so over exxagerated and very similar to whippets seen 30 odd years ago, whereas the northern type are the larger, heavier type, often brindles with heavier fronts - which are in my opinion are the more 'modern' type. This is JUST the way I think about it and from what I see when you attend shows in the South as opposed to the type I see when I go to shows further North.

But I can see your point Wendy - as yours are from the North and much finer than most of our dogs down here :blink: It would be impossible to make a clear cut definition and/or a geographical divide.
 
What has this to do with Windsor?. Well that was a rhetorical question. Just glanced at C. H. Douglas Todd`s "The Whippet" written in the early 1960`s. He believes that no Italian greyhounds or bull terriers wre used to produce the modern whippet and that the whippet as a small greyhound has been in existence for a very long time. He says that if crosses were used with bull terriers etc. we should surely have throwbacks in whippet litters ( I suppose he means the 1960`s) and none has been reported. Interesting. Regards, Stephen
 
When he says throwbacks I wonder what he was expecting to see.

We know from past debates about non ped racing whippets that there are other things in the mix but these dogs mostly look just like ped Whippets.

I think a Whippet cross is nearly always heavily influenced by the Whippet side, perhaps we see the throw back to staffy (I dont think english bull terriers were used much if at all) in build, colour and width of skull to some extent even now. Lastly black, have you seen how darkly brindled some of the Staffies are, they appear almost black.

The ease of travel has, as far as I think, mixed the mix even more.

Lastly, If the shows did not bench alphbeticaly this would go a long way to there being no sort of devide at all. Believe it or not a breeder is more likely to use a stud dog belonging to someone that benches near to them, particulaly novice breeders.
 
Karen said:
Lastly, If the shows did not bench alphbeticaly this would go a long way to there being no sort of devide at all.  Believe it or not a breeder is more likely to use a stud dog belonging to someone that benches near to them, particulaly novice breeders.
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You've lost me on this. How does alphabetical come into North/South divide, if there is really any such thing?? Which I am not convinced there is. I think there is more of a divide between, for example, certain lines of fawns and and certain lines of brindles than there is between north and south.

And why would someone use a dog that is benched near them, they could live at opposite ends of the country???
 
I must be benched near the R & S then :p

Karen , Ive never heard anything so daft in all my life !!! I dont know where you think these things up . :oops: but you ARE blonde :lol: :huggles:
 
Karen said:
Lastly, If the shows did not bench alphbeticaly this would go a long way to there being no sort of devide at all.  Believe it or not a breeder is more likely to use a stud dog belonging to someone that benches near to them, particulaly novice breeders.
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Shame there isn't an icon for jaw dropping. I'm so confused - I can't think what benching alphabetically has to do with divide, nor have I ever heard of anyone breeding to someone who's benched near them (no breeding allowed at shows - what are people bringing in season bitches and letting them have a go (w00t) ).

Seriously - I just don't see any form of logic in this statement, but having not bred yet, perhaps I need to start paying more attention to those benched either side of me....

Wendy
 
Since when have you lot [SIZE=21pt]EVER[/SIZE] worried about anything being logical, its a bit late now to get all serious, specially Jax (w00t)

I said novice breeders and the first people that rush to the keyboard are not novice breeders. It had nothing to do with the north south devide but that had nothing to do with Windsor but that didnt stop you.

If you really study your catalogues you will have seen over the last 25 years or so there has been a tendency for newer breeders to 'get to know' and use the dogs/buy puppies of people benched near them, Notice I did not say everyone or even most people.

I also said that travelling is not a problem now so using a dog at the other end of the country is not really a problem.

Jax, those of us that keep changing our names and moving bench areas need not concern themselves with this theory ;)
 
ROFL - Heck since I haven't bred yet I certainly think I AM a novice breeder LOL :p

Wendy
 
Is this so called 'divide' not just a way of describing different types of whippets, and does it not happen in most breeds.
 
Karen said:
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Jax, those of us that keep changing our names and moving bench areas need not concern themselves with this theory ;)

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Sorry , Karen , I got fed up of being with the ` C ` crowd and thought I d see what the other end of the alpabet was like :lol: . If id stayed unmarried I would have been in the middle ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,`Marriott` :blink:
 
JAX said:
Karen said:
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Jax, those of us that keep changing our names and moving bench areas need not concern themselves with this theory ;)

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Sorry , Karen , I got fed up of being with the ` C ` crowd and thought I d see what the other end of the alpabet was like :lol: . If id stayed unmarried I would have been in the middle ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,`Marriott` :blink:

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OMG you have been with the M's (w00t)
 
Yes ! Now you know just how lucky you have been , dont you :lol: :huggles:
 
Karen said:
If you really study your catalogues you will have seen over the last 25 years or so there has been a tendency for newer breeders to 'get to know' and use the dogs/buy puppies of people benched near them, Notice I did not say everyone or even most people.

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Have you not got anything better to do than study catalogues from the last 25 years?? LOL!
 
L, M, N, O, Good benching area and a prime example of what Im on about.

Mrs Lowe, Mrs Minns, Mrs Oliver. Paulines dog Say no More, by Mrs Minns Nimrodel Wanderer who was bred by Mrs Lowe.

Meakin, Moran-Healy, Oakbark Middlman, Mrs Minns has used Oakbark recently

Newton, Moran-Healy, McMorrow.

Dawn, When Richard (Mason) was showing years ago wasnt most of his line tied up with PMH

Jax, You are quite near to Stock and Robinson as there is not a lot of peoples names starting with U and V.

Just to bring us right up to date, Meads and Noel-Smith.

Are you getting the hang of it now, as I said because we travel to so many shows now it is not so noticable but if you go back through the lines you will see it.

Dessie, I have masses more stuff to do but to me its just another way that things influence type.
 
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