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Really....do we all sound that desperate?
you should see some of the ones that try and slip into the directory!
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It's sad to think that people make these, and that there is a demand for them
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We've had another exciting training morning today...youngest was finally allowed to go upstairs and explore around. So far she has managed to sneak upstairs for couple of times and I've fetched her down straight away so it has been still 'uncharted waters'. Going upstairs hasn't been the issue..OH NO ..given a chance she fly up the stairs, this time she had to learn to come down too. After all the sniffing around...bouncing on the bed..diving under duvet..standing on the windowsill and checking outdoors from different perspective and pinching socks and toilet roll etc etc it was time to tackle the stairs. Which went quite well..very slowly, one step at the time following my foot steps and the alluring toilet roll as a 'carrot' that was waiting her mouth on front of each new step..never quite managing to get hold of it..
The child gate was left open for her to go up if she wanted and after few 'escapes' and coming back down with her..the newly charted 'waters' soon lost its interest.
Gate is back on and we have another go at it all later on today..little steps at the time but it feels good I can now see that my move to sleep back upstairs on the bed is going to happen soon....and no doubt with the dogs too
..given a chance she fly up the stairs, this time she had to learn to come down too. After all the sniffing around...bouncing on the bed..diving under duvet..standing on the windowsill and checking outdoors from different perspective and pinching socks and toilet roll etc etc it was time to tackle the stairs. Which went quite well..very slowly, one step at the time following my foot steps and the alluring toilet roll as a 'carrot' that was waiting her mouth on front of each new step..never quite managing to get hold of it..The child gate was left open for her to go up if she wanted and after few 'escapes' and coming back down with her..the newly charted 'waters' soon lost its interest.
Gate is back on and we have another go at it all later on today..little steps at the time but it feels good I can now see that my move to sleep back upstairs on the bed is going to happen soon....and no doubt with the dogs too
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'Mmm...it was rather delicious...anymore knocking about?'
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'Nice cheese..I left you a bit...lick it!'
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'I can smell it but I can't see it....'
We got caught in hail this morning. My sensitiveflowerhound and I ended up sheltering under trees, with me leaning over his back and holding my hands over his head. Rufty tufty Scottish deerhound genes are useless in the face of nasty cold hurty missiles when you have no undercoat to speak of. I was all for quick-marching home, but Jasper wouldn't shift from under the trees.
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Morning......one very grumpy and tired dog owner here..ready off load some steam and spill the beans what one of mine has been up to ..SORRY, this is going to be a long post.
My youngest (nearly 9 months) seems to go through another phase in her growing up stages. Lately she has been rather handful at times. Being a terrier does not describe all her ways, she is VERY different character from any of the other terriers I've had and I suspect this one is always going to be 'the different one'.
This current 'thing' that is bugging me has happened occasionally for some time but last couple of weeks it has been going on every single night and I cannot work it out what it is all about..;
I'm just about to go to sleep, turning most of the lights off (as I have always done..nothing new) leaving just a little night light on.
Older one settles straight on where ever she is going to sleep that night or at least to start with but for youngster it is now like a sign..'time to get busyyyy!' And she gets up to all sorts what ever she can think of...eg stuff she never does during the day!?
It definitely is not hunting behaviour that she does, that is what they both do outside when there is something interesting going on. What Eva does goes on indoors, all I can hear is scratching here and there...sniffing, sniffling, rattling, and moving stuff...trying to get under furniture etc etc. I try not to react to encourage this behaviour but when I'm already challenged with my sleep needs, it is now getting very hard not to get irritated.
So last night, same thing again...same pattern to start with and then the little bugger started scratching under the bed! She had got underneath and was lying on her back and her little legs were going like sewing machine At first the older was behaving like nothing was going on...she was snuggly next to me but as I was getting increasingly agitated, she too got up and waited what is going to happen next..'mum is not a happy bunny...' (insert some scary music here)
So...the time came for a 'cooler'. I haven't used cage for some time now for separation purposes, it is there, door open for either dog to use/go into as they wish, but last night I reached my breaking point. Without saying a word, little one was escorted in and I make my bed next to her on settee so I can hear if she is in need to get out.
Not a sound from her for next 5 hours....not a single one!! I woke few times during the night and quietly lifted my head up to check upon her and each time she was fast a sleep
When I opened the door this morning, all she did was crawled out few steps and stretch out with her legs still inside the cage and carried on sleeping
Perhaps I will have to repeat the same thing for few nights now to drive the message into her thick skull that night time is not 'for what ever she is doing it for'..
And as a lesson for myself, recently I've noticed that younger one is taking my kisses and cuddles and any other personal attention in a wrong way, like she is more entitled than the older one and behaving in such a manner too..border line a bully behaviour if don't step in! Nah..I'm not making this up!
I've always been very strict by giving equal attention for each dog and have instructed hubby to behave same manner too, but where as older one is very laid back and not reactive at all, she lets younger one get away with 'murder'/ allowing her to behave with bossy attitude ..it seems more evident that I have to be very very careful with her not to give an inch for her demands as she takes full advantage of it and it seems to be fuelled by the same attention the other one gets.
So now it is killing me that I'm not able to treat her same as I've always treated all my dogs =they've 'tolerated' well my touchy feely ways, but is that the way I am with my animals! I have to restrict myself to do it only when she comes to me rather than me going to her when I feel like it
I hope it is just part of her growing up thing...though my gut says differently, but for time being I have to learn to manage her and her ways accordingly. Luckily 80-90% of the time she is really really nice dog, friendly with everybody and generally well behaved if not stubborn....as they come..
But that's why I love terriers..they are not a boring dogs for sure!
...one very grumpy and tired dog owner here..ready off load some steam and spill the beans what one of mine has been up to ..SORRY, this is going to be a long post.My youngest (nearly 9 months) seems to go through another phase in her growing up stages. Lately she has been rather handful at times. Being a terrier does not describe all her ways, she is VERY different character from any of the other terriers I've had and I suspect this one is always going to be 'the different one'.
This current 'thing' that is bugging me has happened occasionally for some time but last couple of weeks it has been going on every single night and I cannot work it out what it is all about..;
I'm just about to go to sleep, turning most of the lights off (as I have always done..nothing new) leaving just a little night light on.
Older one settles straight on where ever she is going to sleep that night or at least to start with but for youngster it is now like a sign..'time to get busyyyy!'
And she gets up to all sorts what ever she can think of...eg stuff she never does during the day!?It definitely is not hunting behaviour that she does, that is what they both do outside when there is something interesting going on. What Eva does goes on indoors, all I can hear is scratching here and there...sniffing, sniffling, rattling, and moving stuff...trying to get under furniture etc etc. I try not to react to encourage this behaviour but when I'm already challenged with my sleep needs, it is now getting very hard not to get irritated.
So last night, same thing again...same pattern to start with and then the little bugger started scratching under the bed! She had got underneath and was lying on her back and her little legs were going like sewing machine
At first the older was behaving like nothing was going on...she was snuggly next to me but as I was getting increasingly agitated, she too got up and waited what is going to happen next..'mum is not a happy bunny...' (insert some scary music here)So...the time came for a 'cooler'. I haven't used cage for some time now for separation purposes, it is there, door open for either dog to use/go into as they wish, but last night I reached my breaking point. Without saying a word, little one was escorted in and I make my bed next to her on settee so I can hear if she is in need to get out.
Not a sound from her for next 5 hours....not a single one!! I woke few times during the night and quietly lifted my head up to check upon her and each time she was fast a sleep
When I opened the door this morning, all she did was crawled out few steps and stretch out with her legs still inside the cage and carried on sleeping
Perhaps I will have to repeat the same thing for few nights now to drive the message into her thick skull that night time is not 'for what ever she is doing it for'..
And as a lesson for myself, recently I've noticed that younger one is taking my kisses and cuddles and any other personal attention in a wrong way, like she is more entitled than the older one and behaving in such a manner too..border line a bully behaviour if don't step in!
Nah..I'm not making this up!I've always been very strict by giving equal attention for each dog and have instructed hubby to behave same manner too, but where as older one is very laid back and not reactive at all, she lets younger one get away with 'murder'/ allowing her to behave with bossy attitude ..it seems more evident that I have to be very very careful with her not to give an inch for her demands as she takes full advantage of it and it seems to be fuelled by the same attention the other one gets.
So now it is killing me that I'm not able to treat her same as I've always treated all my dogs =they've 'tolerated' well my touchy feely ways, but is that the way I am with my animals! I have to restrict myself to do it only when she comes to me rather than me going to her when I feel like it
I hope it is just part of her growing up thing...though my gut says differently, but for time being I have to learn to manage her and her ways accordingly. Luckily 80-90% of the time she is really really nice dog, friendly with everybody and generally well behaved if not stubborn..
..as they come..But that's why I love terriers..they are not a boring dogs for sure!
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Dogs - don't you just love 'em, @Finsky For what it's worth, I don't think it necessarily works to treat all dogs as equals and make life 'fair' - if one needs firmer boundaries, they will probably be happier with those boundaries, and not think twice about the fact that the other dog is treated differently - it's just the way it is. And if your young 'un settles OK in the crate at night and gives you some sleep - that can be her new 'bedroom' rather than a consequence for being a PITA.
My two human boys weren't, and aren't treated in quite the same way. DS2 could be trusted with OH's air gun (shooting tin cans down the garden), DS1, though two years older, couldn't - he'd turn towards you, air gun in hand, to say something while pointing it straight at you DS1 has a long-term chronic illness and may end up inheriting more than DS2 because DS2 has a good job, and DS2 is fine with that.
For what it's worth, I don't think it necessarily works to treat all dogs as equals and make life 'fair' - if one needs firmer boundaries, they will probably be happier with those boundaries, and not think twice about the fact that the other dog is treated differently - it's just the way it is. And if your young 'un settles OK in the crate at night and gives you some sleep - that can be her new 'bedroom' rather than a consequence for being a PITA.My two human boys weren't, and aren't treated in quite the same way. DS2 could be trusted with OH's air gun (shooting tin cans down the garden), DS1, though two years older, couldn't - he'd turn towards you, air gun in hand, to say something while pointing it straight at you
DS1 has a long-term chronic illness and may end up inheriting more than DS2 because DS2 has a good job, and DS2 is fine with that.
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Thanks for your reassuring words...I feel better already!Dogs - don't you just love 'em, @Finsky
My two human boys weren't, and aren't treated in quite the same way. DS2 could be trusted with OH's air gun (shooting tin cans down the garden), DS1, though two years older, couldn't - he'd turn towards you, air gun in hand, to say something while pointing it straight at you
Yes..in case of the younger one, I do not trust her to roam around house when I'm out, she either has to go into cage or being shut in a kitchen..where as the older one had my trust to behave already in earlier age than the other one is now..they are very different beasts.In my mind I always compare my dogs behaviour to what people do or to how me and my sister were as kids, but in public I try not to refer too much of the dog behaviour with humans as some folk don't take in same way...or kindly. But yes, now that you mentioned your lads...as I see it, there is SO many ways some of the dogs behaviour is quite comparable to our humans ones...or at least explainable in same terms.
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Yes - the number of times I've said to people regarding their dogs' behaviour, 'Just think of teenage boys...'!
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They are almost uncharted waters for me but in terms of girls I'm more familiar of the teenage behaviour...HUH..that can be bad enough!
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I reckon boys are so much simpler than girls - I avoided all the business of who is whose best friend today, and what she said to her, and she's not talking to her, and why can't I wear high heels, makeup and sexy clothes? They just hit each other over the head instead
Having said that, DS2 did go through a phase of being drawn to the girls' clothes section of Mothercare, particularly the sparkliest and the pinkest dresses, and wore more makeup than I did when he went through his Goth phase
Having said that, DS2 did go through a phase of being drawn to the girls' clothes section of Mothercare, particularly the sparkliest and the pinkest dresses, and wore more makeup than I did when he went through his Goth phase
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By the sound of it my mum must have had easy time with us..well..with me at least. I was more of old fashioned tom boy girl..didn't really care much about clothes and would rather be in forest and build dens and I was in a hurry to earn my own money as soon as it was possible and buy my own things.I reckon boys are so much simpler than girls - I avoided all the business of who is whose best friend today, and what she said to her, and she's not talking to her, and why can't I wear high heels, makeup and sexy clothes? They just hit each other over the head instead
Having said that, DS2 did go through a phase of being drawn to the girls' clothes section of Mothercare, particularly the sparkliest and the pinkest dresses, and wore more makeup than I did when he went through his Goth phase
Where as my sister was more of a 'girly' girl and I relate our younger dog with what my sister was like in personality wise..kind but at times challenging. It feels like I'm re-living the same scenario all over again but this time looking at it from 'outside'....my dogs are like me and sister were.
I suppose that's where this idea of 'equal treatment' with me comes from...it didn't happen with us, if it would have, it could have cut lots of teenage aggro down. I start sounding like I'm pouring some childhood trauma out..
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I start sounding like I'm pouring some childhood trauma out..
And what better place to do it?
I only had brothers, so I grew up wearing my older brother's hand-me-downs. It niggled that my older brother would be allowed to do things that I wasn't, nor not without supervision (wiring a plug springs to mind). But that wasn't so much to do with gender as with him being a hyperintelligent gifted child who was born halfway adult, and I... wasn't...It's always struck me that dealing with Jasper's tantrums is very similar to dealing with DS2 when he was struggling with anger management in 6th form - or rather he controlled his anger at school but when he got home he needed to let rip, and I was in the firing line, and a safe verbal punchbag. Letting them blow themselves out and getting themselves under control rather than shouting back at them and telling them to BEHAVE!! NOW!! was much more effective. Eventually.....
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Ha...I was recipient for all the hand me downs from relations...thought those days it didn't really matter if they were for boys or the girls..anything was considered useful and money saving. Being first born, my parents were quite likely pushed financially as they were still young themselves and trying to make ends meet in their new lives together. Being 70's youngster...well..LOL...the 'looks' were bit limited even with adultsAnd what better place to do it?
It's always struck me that dealing with Jasper's tantrums is very similar to dealing with DS2 when he was struggling with anger management in 6th form - or rather he controlled his anger at school but when he got home he needed to let rip, and I was in the firing line, and a safe verbal punchbag. Letting them blow themselves out and getting themselves under control rather than shouting back at them and telling them to BEHAVE!! NOW!! was much more effective. Eventually.....
and I was 'born old' so I wasn't pampered like my fair bit younger sister that was treated very differently....but she was brought up in different times too. But I would not swap places...no way! Those days we had so much freedom and what a fun we had indeed! Barely seen in home other than sleeping and quick 'fuel up' every now and then...
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Weeeeell….it is funny how that one night in a cage did got the message cross with the youngster! Last night as I was getting ready to go to bed...I found her already curled up and waiting for me!!!
But at 2 am I was woken up by a weighty carrot being dropped on my head Little one has this habit that what ever she is trying to tell me...wanting to go to garden for 'business'...or hungry...etc, she gets all busy tip toying on her back legs like a meerkat with some sort of chew (or in this case carrot) in her mouth and making awful lot of fuss to get noticed. If I ask different options what she might be after..usually by saying the right word, she gets even more frantic.....so 'garden' it was... After that was sorted I tucked her in under her blanket in the cage and we both had few more hours rest.....and she is there again! Though we have been in the garden feeding birds and after that both girls seem to be in mood for lazy morning and snoozes...walk will wait
So....it seems that is that problem solved! I just have to use the cage little more often as obviously she haven't still learned to regulate her need for the rest.....it seems she has still too much to do rather than sleep. The dog like its owner....Guilty!
But at 2 am I was woken up by a weighty carrot being dropped on my head
Little one has this habit that what ever she is trying to tell me...wanting to go to garden for 'business'...or hungry...etc, she gets all busy tip toying on her back legs like a meerkat with some sort of chew (or in this case carrot) in her mouth and making awful lot of fuss to get noticed. If I ask different options what she might be after..usually by saying the right word, she gets even more frantic.....so 'garden' it was... After that was sorted I tucked her in under her blanket in the cage and we both had few more hours rest.....and she is there again! Though we have been in the garden feeding birds and after that both girls seem to be in mood for lazy morning and snoozes...walk will wait So....it seems that is that problem solved! I just have to use the cage little more often as obviously she haven't still learned to regulate her need for the rest.....it seems she has still too much to do rather than sleep. The dog like its owner..
..Guilty! 