Getting a puppy - need help PLEASE

[liv3d_dog]

Hello guys,
am trying to get a new puppy right now and i need a little help from you all. I still am currently decided the breed. I want to ask about your opinion on which one to choose. The most preferred ones for me are either a golden retriever, a labraador retriever or a akita jitsu (japanese).
Which one should i choose?
I live in a apartament on the 3rd floor. I work a 9-5 job with sunday off. Ilive with my family (mother,dad and sister).I don't know which of those dogs are more suitable for an apartment and easier to learn. I can walk and take care of it after 5 of course but from 9 to 5 either my sister or father can have a look at him and walk him sometimes.
I want your opinions and your help. What to choose, how to do this? Am i making the perfect dicision. I have to mention that i LOVE dogs, and when i see love with caps lock that's real love.

Thanks people!

 

[Mayblossom]

Hello and welcome can I be really honest here and say I personally wouldn’t have a puppy in a third floor apartment as house training is going to cause you and your family problems , especially as the breeds you are considering are all large breeds are you prepared to carry the puppy outside and find it some grass up to at least a dozen times a day! Walking up three flights of stairs dozens of times a day is not going to be easy, especially in the middle of the night when pup will need to relieve itself , sorry to be negative just my opinion .

 

[Kara 1]

Why not adopt an older dog ....
I too don't think it would be fair to get a puppy especially whilst you work such long hours ...someone looking in at a pup isn't enough they need company and house training

 

[Mad Murphy]

That first year will wreck your back carrying a big pup up and down stairs.

All of these dogs need space . Maybe you should wait until you have a ground floor apartment/ house and the time to spend raising a pup.

 

[liv3d_dog]

Hello and welcome can I be really honest here and say I personally wouldn’t have a puppy in a third floor apartment as house training is going to cause you and your family problems , especially as the breeds you are considering are all large breeds are you prepared to carry the puppy outside and find it some grass up to at least a dozen times a day! Walking up three flights of stairs dozens of times a day is not going to be easy, especially in the middle of the night when pup will need to relieve itself , sorry to be negative just my opinion .

Doesn't he sleep at night lol?
I have heard i could make a popping environment in house when there is no possible for him to go outside. Is it hard to train him to pop on the same spot in the house when he's not able to get out? For example if he wakes up in the middle of the night.

 

[liv3d_dog]

Why not adopt an older dog ....
I too don't think it would be fair to get a puppy especially whilst you work such long hours ...someone looking in at a pup isn't enough they need company and house training

He has company all day. The house training will be done by me mostly on afternoons, after work.
I want to rise one, take responsibilities and adapt with him the way he will adapt with me.

 

[liv3d_dog]

That first year will wreck your back carrying a big pup up and down stairs.

All of these dogs need space . Maybe you should wait until you have a ground floor apartment/ house and the time to spend raising a pup.

I know it's a hard job tbh and i think i could manage it good.
My point is which from the above would be better, suit the best, understand the best, learn the easiest?

 

[JoanneF]

The house training will be done by me mostly on afternoons, after work.

I have replied to you elsewhere and wont repeat what I have said as I don't want you to think my views might influence others. But the remark above needs to be addressed - toilet training isn't done in the afternoons. I think you need to do a bit more research before committing.

 

[DixD]

None of these would be considered apartment dogs. what makes you feel tgey would be? They are bred for specific purposes, the first two for example, being bred to work all day out in the field. I think, in the UK at least, Akitas are a restricted breed in some circumstances because they are considered a fighting breed. Definitely, can’t imagine one adapting to apartment life. Have a shot at googling suitable dogs for apartment life.

 

[DixD]

Pups are like babies, they can’t control tgeir bowels or bladders for very long.

 

[Catharina Hjorth]

Hello guys,
am trying to get a new puppy right now and i need a little help from you all. I still am currently decided the breed. I want to ask about your opinion on which one to choose. The most preferred ones for me are either a golden retriever, a labraador retriever or a akita jitsu (japanese).
Which one should i choose?
I live in a apartament on the 3rd floor. I work a 9-5 job with sunday off. Ilive with my family (mother,dad and sister).I don't know which of those dogs are more suitable for an apartment and easier to learn. I can walk and take care of it after 5 of course but from 9 to 5 either my sister or father can have a look at him and walk him sometimes.
I want your opinions and your help. What to choose, how to do this? Am i making the perfect dicision. I have to mention that i LOVE dogs, and when i see love with caps lock that's real love.

Thanks people!

I'm going to agree with other people here - none of those breeds are great for apartment life. They're all quite big and need to be carried up/down stairs for the first year.
Especially in the first couple of months this will be many times a day and you will not always know exactly when. Even if you give him a designated peeing/pooping place inside the apartment (which is a really bad idea in my opinion), there will still be accidents and the puppy will still need to go outside - also many times every night for the first weeks. No puppies do not sleep at night.

I live in an apartment with my 9kg poodle but even with him, I stayed the first 3-4 months I had him, with my parents, as they have a house with a garden.

Being away at work is common for a lot of dog owners, but I do worry when you say you will look after him after 5. What about before 9? A young dog needs plenty of play, training and comfort from their owner to learn the ropes of the world and bond with their people. He/she will need a walk before you go to work; along with one in the middle of they day and again in the evening. Will your family be okay with doing all the work during the day? And trust me, there's A LOT of work to be done during the day with a young dog. It won't just lie dutifully and calm till you come home.

When all this is said and done, I would personally prefer either the Golden Retriever or the Labrador of the above mentioned breeds. Both easy to train, adaptable and very loving - but again, they don't arrive like that, it takes a lot of time, training and love.

 

[liv3d_dog]

I'm going to agree with other people here - none of those breeds are great for apartment life. They're all quite big and need to be carried up/down stairs for the first year.
Especially in the first couple of months this will be many times a day and you will not always know exactly when. Even if you give him a designated peeing/pooping place inside the apartment (which is a really bad idea in my opinion), there will still be accidents and the puppy will still need to go outside - also many times every night for the first weeks. No puppies do not sleep at night.

I live in an apartment with my 9kg poodle but even with him, I stayed the first 3-4 months I had him, with my parents, as they have a house with a garden.

Being away at work is common for a lot of dog owners, but I do worry when you say you will look after him after 5. What about before 9? A young dog needs plenty of play, training and comfort from their owner to learn the ropes of the world and bond with their people. He/she will need a walk before you go to work; along with one in the middle of they day and again in the evening. Will your family be okay with doing all the work during the day? And trust me, there's A LOT of work to be done during the day with a young dog. It won't just lie dutifully and calm till you come home.

When all this is said and done, I would personally prefer either the Golden Retriever or the Labrador of the above mentioned breeds. Both easy to train, adaptable and very loving - but again, they don't arrive like that, it takes a lot of time, training and love.

Firstly, thank you for your reply.
Yeah, i understand it's a hard task and am willing to risk. I know none of them is suitable for an apartment but there's where i live and i don't really like getting a small dog.
As i said i would taking him out on a walk before going to work and most likely use the work break to come home and take him out at that time too.
So basically my family will need to 'supervise & take care of him' for about 8 hours a day.
Yeah, accidents happen, mistakes happen. I see dogs as humans so there's nothing wrong about it. I just want to know if they are easy-learners. A couple of mistakes won't hurt anyone to be honest.

Am also more into golden or labrador as they have better temperament from what i have seen compared to akitas.

My other question is: Due to the golden being with more dog fur (wool), will he be a problem dropping is fur around the house. Does the labrador has less from this concern?

 

[liv3d_dog]

None of these would be considered apartment dogs. what makes you feel tgey would be? They are bred for specific purposes, the first two for example, being bred to work all day out in the field. I think, in the UK at least, Akitas are a restricted breed in some circumstances because they are considered a fighting breed. Definitely, can’t imagine one adapting to apartment life. Have a shot at googling suitable dogs for apartment life.

Most of the suitable does for apartament life are small dogs and i am more into those kinds of breeds.
They might not be suitable for apartaments i understand but they are adaptive and i have seen people work that out.

 

[Mayblossom]

Maybe think about the dogs needs before your own until you’re in a position to give the dog what it needs, even with a small dog you’re going to have the same problems re toileting. Getting a puppy house trained ( and by that I mean not doing it in the house ) could take 6 months. Won’t be very nice if you’re still coping with poo and pee on the floor for that length of time, also not pleasant for the dog either.

 

[JoanneF]

Ok, I've said similar before but I really suggest you try this approach.

For the next three months, try the following.

Month 1. Every hour in daytime, from 7.00am to 10.00 pm, without fail, somebody in the family carry a 2 kilo sack of potatoes downstairs and stand outside for 15 minutes, then back upstairs. Also, at around 3.00 am, YOU do it. This will replicate toilet training a puppy that can't do stairs. Also, rain or shine, you take an hour walk before work and one after. Every day, no going out after work. Your puppy won't be able do do hour long walks for some time, but you need to see how it feels. Also, since coat shedding has been raised you need to vacuum the house every day (your dog therefore your responsibility).

Month 2 . You can cut the outside visits to once every 90 minutes but increase the sack of potatoes to 5 kilos. Keep going with the walks and vacuuming.

Month 3. Keep the same regime but the sack of potatoes is now 8 kilos. You can now cut out the 3.00 am toilet visit but the last daytime visit should be around 11.00 pm and the first morning one should be around 6.00 am.

Come back in three months with an honest answer and you will know if your family is ready for a large breed puppy.

The other thing I'd like you to think very seriously about is where your life will be in five, ten years. You have the support of your family now but what if you move away from home, your sister moves away, your parents become less able to help?

 

[Mayblossom]

Well said Jo !

 

[liv3d_dog]

Ok, I've said similar before but I really suggest you try this approach.

For the next three months, try the following.

Month 1. Every hour in daytime, from 7.00am to 10.00 pm, without fail, somebody in the family carry a 2 kilo sack of potatoes downstairs and stand outside for 15 minutes, then back upstairs. Also, at around 3.00 am, YOU do it. This will replicate toilet training a puppy that can't do stairs. Also, rain or shine, you take an hour walk before work and one after. Every day, no going out after work. Your puppy won't be able do do hour long walks for some time, but you need to see how it feels. Also, since coat shedding has been raised you need to vacuum the house every day (your dog therefore your responsibility).

Month 2 . You can cut the outside visits to once every 90 minutes but increase the sack of potatoes to 5 kilos. Keep going with the walks and vacuuming.

Month 3. Keep the same regime but the sack of potatoes is now 8 kilos. You can now cut out the 3.00 am toilet visit but the last daytime visit should be around 11.00 pm and the first morning one should be around 6.00 am.

Come back in three months with an honest answer and you will know if your family is ready for a large breed puppy.

The other thing I'd like you to think very seriously about is where your life will be in five, ten years. You have the support of your family now but what if you move away from home, your sister moves away, your parents become less able to help?

I answered you smwhere else

 

[Whippylove]

I agree with everyone else, I can't see this working out well for the dog and you. Pups can be up most of the night needing to go outside for the toilet this can happen really frequently even if it's not a pee they need you still have to get up to take them out, my youngest is 22mth and still asks for a pee during the night. Letting them do the toilet in the house can cause bad habits especially if they are left to do it when they want.
Can you not wait till you have somewhere more suitable for the dog?

 

[liv3d_dog]

I agree with everyone else, I can't see this working out well for the dog and you. Pups can be up most of the night needing to go outside for the toilet this can happen really frequently even if it's not a pee they need you still have to get up to take them out, my youngest is 22mth and still asks for a pee during the night. Letting them do the toilet in the house can cause bad habits especially if they are left to do it when they want.
Can you not wait till you have somewhere more suitable for the dog?

I don't know am with the idea that i need a dog buddy into my life right now.
I will help him, teach him and treat him and he will do the same when he matures. At least this is how i see it.

its reciprocal

 

[Kara 1]

Another human being thinking a puppy /Dog will have to fit in with whatever because they Want Want Want