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Last Thursday 19th March, I found the early/first hour of opening at our local Sainsbury's was very useful for us oldies to get some shopping, without the hustle and bustle of crowds rushing to see what they could quickly grab and stock up with!

I completely understand how some of the NHS staff are also finding it difficult with their shopping needs.
Sainsbury's have now announced that their opening hours are going to be from 8am to 8pm daily, with Monday's, Wednesday's, and Fridays having the first hour allocated for the elderly, disabled, vulnerable and NHS workers and social care workers..
My worries are that we, oap's are being invited to knowingly mix with front line NHS staff:eek:
Am I worrying about things unnecessarily, and making mountains out of mole hills.
Front line workers at times do get reported for dying of the desease they are helping to control.
Am I completely "out of order" for thinking this way:oops:

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Oh, I will have a look in my emails to see if they have sent out any updated news.

Thank you @Buddy1
 
I hadn't thought of that, @excuseme... Of course it's right to be concerned. Supermarkets, like everyone else, are having to work this out and adapt as things change.
 
Ive just checked out their website. Working to feed the nation
It is 7.30 am for NHS workers who must bring identity. I will definitely be going to the early opening for older people.
 
Our email from sainsbury's this morning stated opening from 8am to 8pm, but their website now mentions the 7.30 to 8 for NHS staff and 8am to 9am for elderly etc. Everything is changing so fast.
 
The worlds gone mad, first coronavirus then these stupid brainless protests from mindless black orientated idiots putting thousands of lives at risk, and the white community who also think that protesting in a pandemic is a good thing to do, I’m at a loss for words, then bonzo boris opens the stores and again the fools of this country rush to shop standing less than a yard from the next person, we will continue to pay a heavy price, this country now has the most selfish of people living in it, the young don’t care and have no respect, and as for them ravers in Manchester ! 6.000 of them geez, can it get any worse? Yes In my opinion
 
Oh wow!! you really are very cross, but I don't blame you.

This morning I was in a queue waiting to get to a post office counter. Behind me in the queue were a couple of elderly old ladies, (i am a pensioner myself), they were that close to me that they could have just looked over my shoulder to see what was in my trolley. I was so cross that I shuffled forward a little and put my trolley behind me, between myself and them. There was a comment but not loud enough to hear properly, so I did not react or respond. I think my trolley said enough. :mad:
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The worlds gone mad, first coronavirus then these stupid brainless protests from mindless black orientated idiots putting thousands of lives at risk, and the white community who also think that protesting in a pandemic is a good thing to do, I’m at a loss for words, then bonzo boris opens the stores and again the fools of this country rush to shop standing less than a yard from the next person, we will continue to pay a heavy price, this country now has the most selfish of people living in it, the young don’t care and have no respect, and as for them ravers in Manchester ! 6.000 of them geez, can it get any worse? Yes In my opinion

You’re not alone in your thinking, just lately I’ve turned into the grouchiest pensioner ever! I never used to be like it but everything going on at the moment is getting to me :mad: Had a panic attack in a garden centre ( on my first outing to a retail place in 3 months) as couldn’t cope with people coming near me , just ridiculous as have been to this garden centre hundreds of times ! Will we ever be ‘normal’ again? This virus has brought out the worst in so many people , sadly. Makes you ashamed to be a member of the Human ( can’t even call some of them that ) race! How can you have protests and lockdown in the same sentence ! Crazy :eek:
 
I think it would be interesting to see if there is a spike in cases over the next few days in the big cities where protests have been happening - about 10 days after the first protests, which I think is the incubation period.

Without wishing this illness on anyone, if there is a spike, it would suggest that social distancing has been helpful and all these people in one place has contributed to there being more infections. But if there isn't, it will make a lot of people question whether it is as important as we are being told.
 
I have some sympathy for the BAME protestors because for many of them, in their daily experience, there is a pandemic of racism which they find harder to deal with than the virus. It's difficult for those who are white and live in communities with very few ethnic minorities to imagine what that must be like.

But queuing for hours for Primark or squeezing onto beaches like sardines... :mad:

What we always need to remember is that though it seems like everyone is breaking the guidelines, we are only hearing about those who do - we don't see all those who are staying at home, enjoying their gardens, walking away from the busier areas. And those who do form crowds are on the whole the types who are going to leave their rubbish behind them - i.e. those who only care about their own enjoyment than anyone else's wellbeing, and think they'll be fine because they 'feel fine' and don't think about what they might pass on to more frail loved ones.

In good news, it's over a fortnight since the beaches were invaded and since the first protests, and there don't seem to be signs of a second spike. Possibly, crowds out of doors aren't as risky as it seemed they may be - I hope the government is gathering data to see where people who test positive have been, and whether this is the case or not.

I really feel for all the people who have to be extra-careful because of pre-existing conditions or age. It must be so hard to be confined to your home and garden when others are just continuing with life as normal. And if you don't have a garden, and/or you have children - it must be hell:(
 
Time will tell on another spike, it’s got to spike the way I see it, as for the bame, what’s been happening to them in life at times is regretful and shameful, but will I take a knee for them? No, i live in Scotland now and have had some hate aimed at me for being English, did I cry or go to the police ? No, I’ve been called white trash in Northampton, did I run to the police ? No, they are also very racist and are not angels, they hate us just as much, things will change as they have hit there’country’s with protests at the right time for media coverage,, totally wrong but that’s them, I’m proud to be English and white, is rasicm wrong? Of course it is but I’m fed up of hearing they are saints, who’s doing the stabbings IN London over the last 5 years? Who’s going around on bikes with face coverings robbing anybody thats got a phone or Hambag in there hand? Funny that they use face coverings then and not so much in a pandemic, am I racist? I’ve worked with plenty and had my share of good and bad, , excuseme asked I sound mad!! Too right I am,
 
It's the 'othering', the 'them' and 'us' that bothers me. There are good and bad people in BAME communities, in white communities (look at the actions of some of the white far right people in the protests), in the police force... everywhere. I don't think we should lump those who threw the statue of Colston into the harbour should be lumped with those who defaced/threatened statues of Churchill, Baden-Powell, etc.Talk of 'them' without looking at the individuals, and their individual experiences, won't help the fight against racism. I can't say I'm proud to be white or English. I'm just... me.

But yes, I do understand your anger, @lurcherman, and that of everyone else. I certainly feel it against the people who caused damage and harm to people and properties, who didn't give a second thought to the impact on the virus, and who thought their day out was more important than anything else. The best we can do is to try to understand everyone's points of view, to condemn those who should be condemned (on which we may never agree), and to recognise that though the virus has brought out the worst in some people, it's brought out the best in others.
 
Oh, nad talking of anger at idiots - there were firemen in the woods this morning because some complete idiots had had a bonfire/BBQ on the scout field in the woods and not put it out properly, so it was still going this morning :mad: It's not an area where it's that likely to spread unless it's tinder dry, but I live in fear of Jasper smelling the remains of the BBQ, going over there, and being so intent on finding any scraps left that he doesn't notice his pads burning:(
 
Oh, nad talking of anger at idiots - there were firemen in the woods this morning because some complete idiots had had a bonfire/BBQ on the scout field in the woods and not put it out properly, so it was still going this morning :mad: It's not an area where it's that likely to spread unless it's tinder dry, but I live in fear of Jasper smelling the remains of the BBQ, going over there, and being so intent on finding any scraps left that he doesn't notice his pads burning:(
Ooooh....don't get me started with fires! Just as this lockdown stuff started, somebody near our local dog walking park/fields that parts have large elephant grass plantations for fuel did light the harvest ready plant matter and it burned like a you would have spread petrol around! :mad::mad: The whole field was totally charred black...what a waste of full year's worth of growth.
The good news was that the plants don't really mind, they have started to come up again and no doubt will like all the ash....but there is quite a number of wild life that live amongst all that plant cover....:(
 
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Sigh. You really can't fix stupid, can you?
 
I hope I didn’t offend anybody earlier with my morning rant hehe if I did then TOUGH , no seriously if I did I do apologise a wee bit
 
Nope, not at all, @lurcherman. We all need to rant at times, and we all have different opinions - that's fine :)
 
I think it would be interesting to see if there is a spike in cases over the next few days in the big cities where protests have been happening - about 10 days after the first protests, which I think is the incubation period.

Without wishing this illness on anyone, if there is a spike, it would suggest that social distancing has been helpful and all these people in one place has contributed to there being more infections. But if there isn't, it will make a lot of people question whether it is as important as we are being told.
Because I have few family members living in different parts of Europe, I follow bit of their news as well..and what happens here, happens everywhere. I doesn't help but maybe if media would cover things bit differently (rather than always find way to criticize), maybe it would make people less cross and more understanding. People really are so similar where ever you go. When ever I talk over phone with them...they moan about same things happening or not.
I just wish there would be less of this 'Me-me attitude'....and now these virus/race stuff/ brexit times have really brought the best and the worst of the human nature out.
 
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