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i think it should be left to the individualDavidH said:
some people enjoy puppy racing
wouldnt be fair to do away with puppy racing
i personally dont like watching the scratch racing
but im not trying to do away with it
everyone in racing puts their dog first
people will run their dogs when they are ready
im not a lover of puppy racing
normans only seen the track about a dozen times
hes 15months
but i would knock anyone who likes to start pups early
thats 1 of the things that keeps the sport interesting
i hate it when i do the lure and folks say if the dog losses it stop it (w00t) could be to late,as you are driving the lure you seem sort of responsible if they were injuryed and have seen some owners blame the lure driver sad but true.ask your self was it to far in front,could i have stopped it quicker personally if they loss there legs its to late to stop as they have lost it.grit your teeth time.stuart worcs said:
I say leave it as it is :thumbsup: As i said earlier upping the age limit will not stop people racing young pups at their club regardless, i do think some owness is on other club members to voice their concerns to the owners involved if they know pups are too immature/injured and the owner is pushing them for full distance.
I think clearing trials should be carried out at BWRA affiliated club as they do in ped racing (i meant to put this in as a proposal
) and dogs have their card stamped once they have proved to be clean, year after year you see the same people running different pups/yearlings that fight, so obviously not much schooling is being done at club level. I don't think it necessarily boils down to running pups too young, it's running them without proper training that causes the majority of accidents.
I think clearing trials should be carried out at BWRA affiliated club as they do in ped racing (i meant to put this in as a proposal
) and dogs have their card stamped once they have proved to be clean, year after year you see the same people running different pups/yearlings that fight, so obviously not much schooling is being done at club level. I don't think it necessarily boils down to running pups too young, it's running them without proper training that causes the majority of accidents.Poor Blaze doesn't even get to run in the veterans and she's almost six (w00t) and had pups :blink: .DavidH said:
I did wonder about pulling out the adult super-leagues and running in the Cons. veterans but I think that would just be rude
(and may not be allowed).Shhhhhh don't tell Kerri (Connor's Lass) she's 7, had 3 litters, and still goingahorsnall said:maybe if you think its cruel running pups we should stop running vets too as if they to young surely they too old
. I remember Captain Blade at nine years of age still going strong and winning veteran races, he could jump at high as Julie's shoulders too :thumbsup: .- Messages
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AT LAT COMMON SENSE WELL SAID VICKYVicky said:I say leave it as it is :thumbsup: As i said earlier upping the age limit will not stop people racing young pups at their club regardless, i do think some owness is on other club members to voice their concerns to the owners involved if they know pups are too immature/injured and the owner is pushing them for full distance.I think clearing trials should be carried out at BWRA affiliated club as they do in ped racing (i meant to put this in as a proposal
MAYBE IT COULD BE PROPOSED IN ANY OTHER BUSSINESS @ THE MEETING
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Vicky said:I say leave it as it is :thumbsup: As i said earlier upping the age limit will not stop people racing young pups at their club regardless, i do think some owness is on other club members to voice their concerns to the owners involved if they know pups are too immature/injured and the owner is pushing them for full distance.I think clearing trials should be carried out at BWRA affiliated club as they do in ped racing (i meant to put this in as a proposal
I would be inclined to agree with most points -----i would also add that i think puppy races should only have two pups running together as all to often you get races /pups spoilt --and its hard to atribute blame with more than two ===
much easier to see who is doing what with just two in race---and there are not that many races with pups any way=
steve
sensible ideas there rather that upping the age limit. i know it wont stop me if i have a pup ready to race @ 8 months old then il race it in the handicap. good ideas from both vicky and steve that wud b interesting to only have 2 pups in a race.kipper fluke said:Vicky said:I say leave it as it is :thumbsup: As i said earlier upping the age limit will not stop people racing young pups at their club regardless, i do think some owness is on other club members to voice their concerns to the owners involved if they know pups are too immature/injured and the owner is pushing them for full distance.I think clearing trials should be carried out at BWRA affiliated club as they do in ped racing (i meant to put this in as a proposal
I would be inclined to agree with most points -----i would also add that i think puppy races should only have two pups running together as all to often you get races /pups spoilt --and its hard to atribute blame with more than two ===
much easier to see who is doing what with just two in race---and there are not that many races with pups any way=
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sherry said:
Get someone to scan you some--if you dont get any sent!!!
steve
I AGREE LEAVE THINGS HAS THEY ARE PUPS HAVE BEEN RACE LIKE THIS FOR YEARS OWNER NEED TO LOOK AT GETTING THERE PUP FIT BEFORE PUTTING THEM BEHIND A LURE. I HAVE WATCH OWNER SCHOOLING PUPS AND YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE HAD NO WORK AND I LIKE JELLY THE ABOVE OWNER DON;T THINK THEY NEED TELLING AT WHAT AGE THERE PUPS SHOULD BE RACED THERE DOGS ARE A CREDIT AND YOU NO IF YOUR IN A RACE WITH THEM YOUR DOG HAS GOT TO RUN WELL TO BEAT THEM.JUST MY VIEW. :thumbsup:sadieandco said:
i wont say no if u r offering steve lol :thumbsup:kipper fluke said:sherry said:
Get someone to scan you some--if you dont get any sent!!!
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just give Alison a ring and she'll send you onesherry said:i wont say no if u r offering steve lol :thumbsup:kipper fluke said:sherry said:
Get someone to scan you some--if you dont get any sent!!!
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Vicky said:I say leave it as it is :thumbsup: As i said earlier upping the age limit will not stop people racing young pups at their club regardless, i do think some owness is on other club members to voice their concerns to the owners involved if they know pups are too immature/injured and the owner is pushing them for full distance.I think clearing trials should be carried out at BWRA affiliated club as they do in ped racing (i meant to put this in as a proposal
Couldn't agree more. We've seen pups having handslips at the club with their legs everywhere and straight away the owners have been told to wait till they've got a better co-ordinated running action. No-one takes offence as they can see for themselves and it's always an all round agreement for them to wait. We also go out of our way to announce on here dogs that have ran clean and been deemed clear for racing. It's a team effort and we support each other as such and continue to support those dogs throughout their racing careers.
Far too many a time I've hear other club members comment that a dog's not running clear at a club after it's ran dodgy in a racing event. Pointless telling me, you should be voicing your opinions with the owner.
Wonder how many would pull their dog out? I did and whilst some felt I was mad, I did get an overwhelming amount of support and admiration which helped me immensly. I also should acknowledge those who went out their way to defend him when some kind soul was circulating derogatory rumours about him.
Just goes to show how worthwhile being part of a team really is.
So why some say it should be up to the owner, I disagree I think it should be up to the club and they should be willing to put their name on the line for it.
weathergirls said:just give Alison a ring and she'll send you onesherry said:i wont say no if u r offering steve lol :thumbsup:kipper fluke said:sherry said:
Get someone to scan you some--if you dont get any sent!!!
steve
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have seen too many dogs burnt out because of over running them too early ,i don't care how well a pup is running at 6/7/8/ month ,the bones are still knitting together,do you not realise that a lot of young dogs have shown promise at an early age and then fell by the wayside ( i can name a few ) but i won't. just because they have been raced too early . i know this proposal won't stop people from running them at club level,but it's a step in the right direction.
i think the people who kicking up against it must have pup that will be too young if it is passed to enter the BWRA puppy champs, think of your dog and not yourself for a change.
how many times do go to race meeting and see dogs in two events.
i.e. puppy and yearlings.
i.e.yearlings and adults
have seen too many dogs burnt out because of over running them too early ,i don't care how well a pup is running at 6/7/8/ month ,the bones are still knitting together,do you not realise that a lot of young dogs have shown promise at an early age and then fell by the wayside ( i can name a few ) but i won't. just because they have been raced too early . i know this proposal won't stop people from running them at club level,but it's a step in the right direction.
i think the people who kicking up against it must have pup that will be too young if it is passed to enter the BWRA puppy champs, think of your dog and not yourself for a change.
how many times do go to race meeting and see dogs in two events.
i.e. puppy and yearlings.
i.e.yearlings and adults
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i think puppy championships have nothing to do with itJOHNG said:
if people want to run their dogs
what right have others got to stop them
like i said in earlier post puppy racing not for me
but each to their own
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common sense,no dogs are the same,i have 2 out the same litter,the bitch runs in races,the dogs not ready i was told a few weeks ago that he was still growing they 16 month now,and hes only 31lb.if you run them youl do a growth plate,end of,story,,,mind you he has a look,so we wont put him in a race till he goes up true,its suppriseing how many owners puts dogs in a race when they know the dogs are not ready,and they could and do spoil someone elses hard work,i have never ran in puppy,champs i would rather wait and have a decent adult,than have a good pup,,knack it up and it wont see an adult race,,i have seen it and i will see it again.my young dogs are ran against my own dogs then club dogs then,when we think there ready they are raced,i have never had any problems,,,this is just my way of doing things,we are not all the same,, :thumbsup:
