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I have just been to pets at home to get Betty an harness fitted properly .The girl asked me what food she was on she was weaned on Wainwrights wet Puppy food but it got then she wasn't eating it so I slowly changed her over to Pedigree Vital Puppy with small pedigree mixer the girl at PAH said because she is a high energy dog that is only fuelling her energy levels . Any advice on what their puppies have done well on and what is a low energy giving food she is 4 months old when I put a little bit of left over gravy on it she ate it all.
 
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"High energy" food usually translates to "high protein", when we talk about dog-food, but can also just refer to high calorie foods with a lot of density [more kcals in smaller volumes].

OTOH, this is the entire ingredients list for Pedigree Puppy Chicken on Amazon-UK:
Ingredients
Cereals (including 4% Rice), Meat and Animal Derivatives (including 14% Chicken), Oils and Fats (including 0.25% Fish Oil, 0.2% Sunflower Oil), Derivatives of Vegetable Origin (including 4.5% Sugar Beet Pulp), Vegetable Protein Extracts, Minerals, Antioxidants

that's just incredibly vague & uninformative, not to say alarming - "derivatives" = by-products. :eek:
WHICH meats? - WHICH 'animals'? -- WHICH 'cereals'? - whole grain, highly-processed, what?
They don't even specify which vegies they take "extracts" from for protein - what? Maize, soya, black beans, what?!

"Oils & fats" could just as easily be the re-processed junk poured into oil-dumpsters behind fast-food restaurants & reclaimed, which would include cottonseed oil [a cheap by-product of cotton production for fiber - cotton is THE MOST-SPRAYED non-food crop in the world, even tobacco comes 2nd to cotton for the variety & frequency of pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, & cide-cides sprayed on those plants. And yes - the OIL carries the chemical residues of all of those, plus chemical fertilizers].
I wouldn't even put this stuff in my compost-pile, let alone feed it to my dog. U have no idea what the heck is in there.
:( Sources do matter.

Any reputable dog-food specifies which species they use as ingredients - not "poultry", but chicken, or goose, or duck, or guinea-hen. Not "oils" but WHICH oil, & how it's processed - cold-pressed, chemically extracted, heat extracted, etc. Not "fats", but WHOSE fat - beef suet, hog lard, chicken fat...
I'd go to the dog-food scoring website for the UK, & find something better. :)

Also, how old is the puppy? - Breeds that will mature to over 40# can switch to adult-formula diets anytime after 8-WO, they don't need a highly-concentrated "special diet". [Toy-breed pups need more-frequent meals than larger-breed puppies, they have tiny stomachs & very-rapid metabolisms.]

- terry

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"High energy" food usually translates to "high protein", when we talk about dog-food, but can also just refer to high calorie foods with a lot of density [more kcals in smaller volumes].

OTOH, this is the entire ingredients list for Pedigree Puppy Chicken on Amazon-UK:
Ingredients
Cereals (including 4% Rice), Meat and Animal Derivatives (including 14% Chicken), Oils and Fats (including 0.25% Fish Oil, 0.2% Sunflower Oil), Derivatives of Vegetable Origin (including 4.5% Sugar Beet Pulp), Vegetable Protein Extracts, Minerals, Antioxidants

that's just incredibly vague & uninformative, not to say alarming - "derivatives" = by-products. :eek:
WHICH meats? - WHICH 'animals'? -- WHICH 'cereals'? - whole grain, highly-processed, what?
They don't even specify which vegies they take "extracts" from for protein - what? Maize, soya, black beans, what?!

"Oils & fats" could just as easily be the re-processed junk poured into oil-dumpsters behind fast-food restaurants & reclaimed, which would include cottonseed oil [a cheap by-product of cotton production for fiber - cotton is THE MOST-SPRAYED non-food crop in the world, even tobacco comes 2nd to cotton for the variety & frequency of pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, & cide-cides sprayed on those plants. And yes - the OIL carries the chemical residues of all of those, plus chemical fertilizers].
I wouldn't even put this stuff in my compost-pile, let alone feed it to my dog. U have no idea what the heck is in there.
:( Sources do matter.

Any reputable dog-food specifies which species they use as ingredients - not "poultry", but chicken, or goose, or duck, or guinea-hen. Not "oils" but WHICH oil, & how it's processed - cold-pressed, chemically extracted, heat extracted, etc. Not "fats", but WHOSE fat - beef suet, hog lard, chicken fat...
I'd go to the dog-food scoring website for the UK, & find something better. :)

Also, how old is the puppy? - Breeds that will mature to over 40# can switch to adult-formula diets anytime after 8-WO, they don't need a highly-concentrated "special diet". [Toy-breed pups need more-frequent meals than larger-breed puppies, they have tiny stomachs & very-rapid metabolisms.]

- terry

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Thank you for the info She is 4 months old
 
Breeds that will mature to over 40# can switch to adult-formula diets anytime after 8-WO,

I know it isn't the situation here but in case anyone reads in future, giant breeds (e.g. great danes, ovcharka, and so on) need a different calcium phosphorous ratio for proper skeletal development so should be kept on a specific giant breed puppy food for longer.
 
My whippet puppy is 12 weeks and she was weaned onto Skinner's Field and Trial Puppy (duck and rice) which I have carried on with. It's a high quality food, you have to order it online as Pets at Home don't stock it, but it's very reasonably priced and the ingredients are very healthy. She's doing really well on it. I mix in one spoonful of James Beloved wet puppy food to make it smell better and she gobbles it down. I haven't noticed any change in her energy levels because of it so I'll definitely continue to use it.
 
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My whippet puppy is 12 weeks and she was weaned onto Skinner's Field and Trial Puppy (duck and rice) which I have carried on with. It's a high quality food, you have to order it online as Pets at Home don't stock it, but it's very reasonably priced and the ingredients are very healthy. She's doing really well on it. I mix in one spoonful of James Beloved wet puppy food to make it smell better and she gobbles it down. I haven't noticed any change in her energy levels because of it so I'll definitely continue to use it.
Skinners doesn't do particularly well on the Dogfood revew site. Only scoring 3.5. I had looked at it previously as our local Saddlers sell it. Whereas I have to travel 8 miles or buy online for Canagan.
 
Lynyona, I think just find what works best for you and don't worry too much about review sites. I've read a couple of review sites that scored Skinners very highly and others that scored it in the middle-ground, but it is one of those 'conscientious' brands that is careful about the ingredients it puts in the food - so as long as you're looking at those types of brands and not the cheap nasty ones then I think you should just find the brand that works best for your dog.
 
Hi
I have just been to pets at home to get Betty an harness fitted properly .The girl asked me what food she was on she was weaned on Wainwrights wet Puppy food but it got then she wasn't eating it so I slowly changed her over to Pedigree Vital Puppy with small pedigree mixer the girl at PAH said because she is a high energy dog that is only fuelling her energy levels . Any advice on what their puppies have done well on and what is a low energy giving food she is 4 months old when I put a little bit of left over gravy on it she ate it all.
Can’t beat raw in my opinion. There are raw companies out there who sell complete, raw meals for pups.
 
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