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Whats the difference between certain 'types' of whippet? e.g. cornstalk etc????

I'm looking for a pet, not a working dog, so just wondering if I should take any of this into account? x
 
Cornstalk is just a breeders kennel name ... their whippets tend to be on the tall side.

Some 'kennels' breed KC registered whippets for show, others for working and still others for racing. Plus there are plenty of unregistered pure bred whippets out there, and whippets with a spash of something else in the mix. The principle consideration when looking for a pet (unless size is an issue as whippets range from roughly 16 to 22 inches to the shoulder) should be not breeding but character ... a whippet known to be a couch potato will be a better bet if you work than say a whippet previously used to a very active life style.

Sorry, it a bit of a difficult question to answer ... you'll see whippets advertised as Laguna lines (old coursing lines, usually indicating dogs bred for work, Sooty Sam lines (again working) ... we recently took a supposedly 'French' whippet into rescue (they'd been told it had a French dog in it's pedigree) ... perhaps it's best to ask about specific terms as and when you encounter them :thumbsup:
 
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Cornstalk is just a breeders kennel name ... their whippets tend to be on the tall side.Some 'kennels' breed KC registered whippets for show, others for working and still others for racing. Plus there are plenty of unregistered pure bred whippets out there, and whippets with a spash of something else in the mix. The principle consideration when looking for a pet (unless size is an issue as whippets range from roughly 16 to 22 inches to the shoulder) should be not breeding but character ... a whippet known to be a couch potato will be a better bet if you work than say a whippet previously used to a very active life style.

Sorry, it a bit of a difficult question to answer ... you'll see whippets advertised as Laguna lines (old coursing lines, usually indicating dogs bred for work, Sooty Sam lines (again working) ... we recently took a supposedly 'French' whippet into rescue (they'd been told it had a French dog in it's pedigree) ... perhaps it's best to ask about specific terms as and when you encounter them :thumbsup:
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I wouldn't agree with that statement.

When looking for a family pet i believe the most important thing is to go to a good, caring breeder. Someone who raises the puppies in the home, handling and socialising them. Quite a few of our puppies have gone to families with young children. These families chose us because our pup's are used to young children and are sympathetically handled by my son daily from birth. Obviously to people without children, this wouldn't be important. Things such as properly worming the pups, correct nutrition etc go without saying. A breeder that will provide you with help and advice for the lifetime of your puppy should you require it.... these are all things to consider

Don't go to some puppy farmer or someone who raises the pups poorly - buying from such people only encourages unscrupulous breeders.
 
jok said:
~Annie~ said:
Cornstalk is just a breeders kennel name ... their whippets tend to be on the tall side.Some 'kennels' breed KC registered whippets for show, others for working and still others for racing. Plus there are plenty of unregistered pure bred whippets out there, and whippets with a spash of something else in the mix. The principle consideration when looking for a pet (unless size is an issue as whippets range from roughly 16 to 22 inches to the shoulder) should be not breeding but character ... a whippet known to be a couch potato will be a better bet if you work than say a whippet previously used to a very active life style.

Sorry, it a bit of a difficult question to answer ... you'll see whippets advertised as Laguna lines (old coursing lines, usually indicating dogs bred for work, Sooty Sam lines (again working) ... we recently took a supposedly 'French' whippet into rescue (they'd been told it had a French dog in it's pedigree) ... perhaps it's best to ask about specific terms as and when you encounter them :thumbsup:
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I wouldn't agree with that statement.

When looking for a family pet i believe the most important thing is to go to a good, caring breeder. Someone who raises the puppies in the home, handling and socialising them. Quite a few of our puppies have gone to families with young children. These families chose us because our pup's are used to young children and are sympathetically handled by my son daily from birth. Obviously to people without children, this wouldn't be important. Things such as properly worming the pups, correct nutrition etc go without saying. A breeder that will provide you with help and advice for the lifetime of your puppy should you require it.... these are all things to consider

Don't go to some puppy farmer or someone who raises the pups poorly - buying from such people only encourages unscrupulous breeders.
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Sorry Jo, just quoting from my experience ... the only Cornstalks I know of our a tad taller than average. As to the rest I couldn't agree more, and nearly typed something similar ... by breeding I meant the bloodlines not the way the pups are raised, which I agree is more important than anything else. I think though, could be wrong, that this person is looking for a preloved whippet.
 
:thumbsup: Hope when I finally get a chance to bring a new puppy into my home I get so much good sound advice.If A French whippet came into my house I wouldn't be able to cope as languages were my worst subject at school. (w00t) (w00t)
 
Thank you for all your advice.

Definitely looking for a pet so will take all that into account re working lines etc.

We would love to take on whippets up to 2 years, but breeder advice is still good to know and to have in the back of our minds. Thanks!
 
Have to say all the Cornstalk whippets I have seen have been the correct size .

I have paid particular attention to them because I really like them and they are in Scotland .

I do like whippets to be the correct size :thumbsup:
 
Hula said:
Have to say all the Cornstalk whippets I have seen have been the correct size .I have paid particular attention to them because I really like them and they are in Scotland .

I do like whippets to be the correct size :thumbsup:
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Quite agree , I dont think Billy would be too happy with the sweeping statement either . Im sorry if this sounds `out of order` , but unless you really know show whippets and their lines its best not to make such a comment JMO

completely agree with what Jok says . its how they are reared and aftercare that should be more important .

As for `french whippets , MY OH call Montee `his German boy ` hes by Ch Whipcat Fireisland at Courthill ( A very good German kennel for those who dont know ) Fortunalty Montee cant understand Phils German LOL and Buffee is Phils `welsh` girl ( Janelyn Breeding )
 
My Kobi has Cornstalk in his breeding too....and he is a pefect size...

The Cornstalk whippets are beautiful... :wub:

Good luck in your search....hope you find what your are looking for....I dont think height matters anyway if you are

just looking for a pet :thumbsup: You will know when youve found the one you are looking for .... :thumbsup:
 
Reading that back, I don't think Annie was trying to say that Cornstalk whippets are TOO tall or badly proportioned ie badly bred, only that the ones she has met have been larger whippets. As we know there is a big difference in whippet size - a male whippet that my dogs play with is only about 17" and about half the weight of mine who are both 21 and a half inches tts so could be regarded as 'tall' relatively.
 
I think Billy and Paul from Cornstalk make a very concerted effort to breed whippets of correct size and I have to say that almost all of those that I have seen in the show ring are nice sized and generally on the smaller end of the scale for show whippets. Of course there are always going to be one or two in a litter that will be bigger, which may be the ones that Annie has seen. But I have to say that it’s not true to say that Cornstalks are on the tall side.

Of course this isn’t the main part of the OP’s question. I can only agree with what others have said in that taking time to find the right breeder for you is the most important thing. There are some wonderful caring breeders out there but sadly there are far more who aren’t. I think the main thing is don’t be in too much of a hurry; do your research; deciding if a puppy or a rescue is the right thing for your situation. Best of luck!
 
Thanks for all the advice.

We're trying to do as much research as possible via forums, sites, friends with whippets etc. We are really wanting to make the right decision for the dog and our lifestyle.

We thought about calling a local breeder but weren't sure if asking questions or visiting would be seen as time wasting if we didn't buy there and then? Don't want to annoy anyone.

... Also worried we go visiting and fall in love and buy through a melting heart!!!!! :)
 
mrsmcd said:
Thanks for all the advice.
We're trying to do as much research as possible via forums, sites, friends with whippets etc. We are really wanting to make the right decision for the dog and our lifestyle.

We thought about calling a local breeder but weren't sure if asking questions or visiting would be seen as time wasting if we didn't buy there and then? Don't want to annoy anyone.

... Also worried we go visiting and fall in love and buy through a melting heart!!!!! :)
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Most breeders would be happy to answer your questions and chat about their Whippets.

Personally, we wouldn't allow people just to come and 'browse' at our puppies. We spend a good while chatting to potential new owners on the telephone and over the internet, this way, by the time they are allowed to come and look at the pups, both parties know that they've 'booked' a pup. So far, we've never met someone who's booked a pup and decided we didn't like them and im absolutely confident that no one would visit my home and decide the pups weren't raised anything other than in an excellent manner. In the last litter of 10, 9 were spoken for at birth and the 10th got his new home lined up by the time he was a week old. What im saying, is that some breeders would never have any need for 'browsers'.

That said, if someone local to me phoned up and asked if they could come and meet my adults as they were thinking about having a Whippet - i'd have no problem with this at all. I've also had lots of out of the blue phonecalls from people quite local, who must search for breeders in the area and then phone up with lots of questions.

Surely any decent person wouldn't mind you phoning up to ask questions and have a chat, so i really wouldn't worry about doing that :thumbsup:
 
Thank you. That's very helpful.

I just didn't know if people were going to feel pestered and / or think we were time wasting if we didn't choose there and then. So thank you for your advice.

Because we're hoping for a whippet (or two!) nearer 6months - 2 years, I think it's harder to speak to owners/breeders. I do know that there is a breeder near us (where my friend bought from) who apparently has some older pups/adults ready to go to new homes. So might be nice to see them and hopefully hope one of them....

We are moving house in the new year so don't want to get a dog until we do move so they don't get uprooted/confused when we do move.
 
mrsmcd said:
Thank you. That's very helpful.
I just didn't know if people were going to feel pestered and / or think we were time wasting if we didn't choose there and then. So thank you for your advice.

Because we're hoping for a whippet (or two!) nearer 6months - 2 years, I think it's harder to speak to owners/breeders. I do know that there is a breeder near us (where my friend bought from) who apparently has some older pups/adults ready to go to new homes. So might be nice to see them and hopefully hope one of them....

We are moving house in the new year so don't want to get a dog until we do move so they don't get uprooted/confused when we do move.
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Have you mentioned whereabouts you actually live :unsure: ? This might help you locate any whippets in your area looking a new home........people on here may be able to point you in the right direction then ;)

Tracy
 
mrsmcd said:
Thank you. That's very helpful.
I just didn't know if people were going to feel pestered and / or think we were time wasting if we didn't choose there and then. So thank you for your advice.

Because we're hoping for a whippet (or two!) nearer 6months - 2 years, I think it's harder to speak to owners/breeders. I do know that there is a breeder near us (where my friend bought from) who apparently has some older pups/adults ready to go to new homes. So might be nice to see them and hopefully hope one of them....

We are moving house in the new year so don't want to get a dog until we do move so they don't get uprooted/confused when we do move.
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Im sorry but thats not the sort of place id be wanting to buy from or would recommend . Why have they got `older pups` Couldnt they sell what they bred ? How many do they breed and who sells adults < unless they are old x breeding stock , sound more like a puppy farm to me , but if you are wanting a a whippet 6 months to 2 years they are the place to get one from ,Youd probably be better with a rescue . mind you if it is puppy farm thats what you would be doing any how . JMO obviously

Also not mentioned , is price.
 
I agree with Jax, a decent breeder would not be selling older pups and adults in the plural. If they have more than one older pup it implies they've bred more than they had homes lined up for and that is irresponsible. If they have more than one adult for sale this also sadly says to me that they have used a dog for breeding and now want to move it on which is unfair :(

Decent breeders do not have litters available all the time, and usually will have all their whippets in the house as much loved members of the family- a really decent one might only produce a litter every two years and would very rarely sell on/ rehome an adult as they recognise that taking on a whippet is for life.

There's a small chance that perhaps this breeder you know of has had pups returned and that is why they are older but that seems very unlikely. Unfortunately if you did take a dog from them they might just replace it with another :(

I do like that you are asking all the right questions and putting a lot of thought into getting your whippet. Reputable breeders on K9 sometimes let pups go to people they have built up some kind of rapport with on here and have then got to know at shows/ coursing events etc. It's a great place to start. :luck:
 
Speaking of older pups..........what about the practice of breeders 'running on' pups? What is the general age by which it is decided if the pups have what it takes for the show ring and what becomes of the ones who 'don't have it'?
 
Ive `ran on`pups and usually end up keeping them :wacko:

I think most folk who do this decide before 6 months which is a `keeper ` . I suppose some do run on longer . It is difficult however to show 2 dogs the same age and sex. something Ive never done , one of each sex was hard enough LOL
 
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