Snapping/ Biting

[em21]

Hi everyone

I know puppies are very mouthy and this is normal for them BUT.... Duds is becoming a bit of a nightmare and making play times a little unpleasant for us. At first we ignored it when he bit us and gave him a toy straight away, he soon figured this out and would come straight back to chew us (w00t) So we tried NO and then gave a toy and praised when chewing on the toy.... this also stopped working. He is now snapping a lot, he's not doing it in a vicious manner, he is just playing but it bloomin' hurts and he doesn't care where he gets you, got me right on the face cheek the other day :rant: !! And I want him to understand that it's not acceptable. I'm now making an AH AH noise :lol: (remember my mum used to do it to us when we were little) This is sort of effeective he does stop but then goes straight back to snapping at us :sweating:

Any advice?? Would be greatly appreciated :thumbsup:

Am I being impatient? Is he going to grow out of this? I'm sure he will :huggles:

Em x

ps sorry for long post, i'm such a babbler!!

 

[Trish]

i usually give a firm ....no.... which does the trick here,but you can also time him out by putting him in his crate for a short while and ignoring him totally ,he will get the message eventually.

you could also hold him at arms length faced away from you that was a trick my vet told me about and it does calm them down :thumbsup:

 

[em21]

i usually give a firm ....no.... which does the trick here,but you can also time him out by putting him in his crate for a short while and ignoring him totally ,he will get the message eventually.
you could also hold him at arms length faced away from you that was a trick my vet told me about and it does calm them down :thumbsup:

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Thanks Trish :thumbsup: Will give that a go

Em x

 

[Whippets Rule]

the only trouble with giving him a time out in his crate is that he may associate his safe place ie the crate with punishment.

better option is to say ouch in a loud high pitched voice and turn your back on him, they usually learn pretty quickly that they've hurt you and that biting doesn't result in a reward.

 

[wilfred]

the only trouble with giving him a time out in his crate is that he may associate his safe place ie the crate with punishment.
better option is to say ouch in a loud high pitched voice and turn your back on him, they usually learn pretty quickly that they've hurt you and that biting doesn't result in a reward.

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Agreed. they learn that biting/mouthing results in play stopping altogether and being ignored for a while. Then a bit later on you can resume gentle play again on your terms and keep "ouching" and ignoring if they bite again ... they do learn fast. If you carry on playing after they've bitten, they think that it's OK to do it.

 

[Rosie]

the only trouble with giving him a time out in his crate is that he may associate his safe place ie the crate with punishment.
better option is to say ouch in a loud high pitched voice and turn your back on him, they usually learn pretty quickly that they've hurt you and that biting doesn't result in a reward.

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Agreed. they learn that biting/mouthing results in play stopping altogether and being ignored for a while. Then a bit later on you can resume gentle play again on your terms and keep "ouching" and ignoring if they bite again ... they do learn fast. If you carry on playing after they've bitten, they think that it's OK to do it.

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Completely agree with this too. At puppy training with Skye the behaviourist said to do this as it mimics reactions he would get from another dog :thumbsup: . Also she said holding you hand gently round the muzzle calms them as is also what a superior dog in the pack would do to a puppy that had got out of hand ) . With its mouth of course not its hand (w00t)

Sounds like he could be a strong willed little chap but being consistent will pay off :luck:

 

[Trish]

the only trouble with giving him a time out in his crate is that he may associate his safe place ie the crate with punishment.
better option is to say ouch in a loud high pitched voice and turn your back on him, they usually learn pretty quickly that they've hurt you and that biting doesn't result in a reward.

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ermm point taken can see that wouldnt be a good idea with putting in their crate,ive never crate trained any of mine so thought their safe haven would be a good place for them to calm down :wacko:

as i said a firm ...NO. was always enough for my pups or even a sharp sounding bark stops them.

 

[WIGGY]

oliver is exactly the same. i asked the vet about it and he said to ignore him when he starts, and he will grow out of it, but it does hurt dosent it!!! ouch

 

[darkfibre72]

Certainly Harry went through a period like this when we first got him, He was only 3 months old then when we got him, but he did stop 'nipping' people a couple of months ago now. It must be a puppy thing ? As above, a firm 'No' !! helped

 

[k4tie-d]

star is the snappy one here, but ruby is really bad for jumping up, guess you cant have everything,

shap no is what i have been doing, although it hasnt worked well as yet, but probabily because i keep playing, so now i have read all these posts i know exactly what i was doing wrong :- "

thanks emma for posting this, hope you can sort out duds soon :huggles:

 

[Sachiko]

I've always got rid of this by crying "AI!" when the pup bites, then he ralizes it hurts. If not working, I just go away and leave the pup on it's own. Then it gets to biting=pain=dull times :thumbsup:

 

[June Jonigk]

I'm a firm believer in the mouthholding technique, as Rosie says, it mimics the way the mother would tell them off or calm them down. I hold the nose until the pups stops struggling to pull it away. Once they go calm, praise them for it, this ensures that the pup knows who is the boss, and who he/she is not allowed to bite :thumbsup: It works like magic!

 

[em21]

I'm a firm believer in the mouthholding technique, as Rosie says, it mimics the way the mother would tell them off or calm them down.  I hold the nose until the pups stops struggling to pull it away.  Once they go calm, praise them for it, this ensures that the pup knows who is the boss, and who he/she is not allowed to bite :thumbsup:   It works like magic!

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I like the sound of this technique, I have done it a few times but think I have been letting go to soon and not waiting till he is calm.

Lots of good advice guys, thankyou :thumbsup:

Em x

 

[trac]

the only trouble with giving him a time out in his crate is that he may associate his safe place ie the crate with punishment.
better option is to say ouch in a loud high pitched voice and turn your back on him, they usually learn pretty quickly that they've hurt you and that biting doesn't result in a reward.

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ermm point taken can see that wouldnt be a good idea with putting in their crate,ive never crate trained any of mine so thought their safe haven would be a good place for them to calm down :wacko:

as i said a firm ...NO. was always enough for my pups or even a sharp sounding bark stops them.

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trish i just have this image of you barking :- " :sweating:

 

[Trish]

the only trouble with giving him a time out in his crate is that he may associate his safe place ie the crate with punishment.
better option is to say ouch in a loud high pitched voice and turn your back on him, they usually learn pretty quickly that they've hurt you and that biting doesn't result in a reward.

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ermm point taken can see that wouldnt be a good idea with putting in their crate,ive never crate trained any of mine so thought their safe haven would be a good place for them to calm down :wacko:

as i said a firm ...NO. was always enough for my pups or even a sharp sounding bark stops them.

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trish i just have this image of you barking :- " :sweating:

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hope your image doesnt put me on all fours trac (w00t)

 

[Juley]

I "yelp" really loudly like another pup would and ignore them. Usually works as they stop to see what the odd noise was.

 

[Julie D]

ouch I remember this nipping well.

We did what you've been advised, who cares if you sound silly, the consistency really pays off and it's nice to have a well mannered dog.

Are you taking Dudley to a puppy class ?

We took Ella, it was only £35 for 8 weeks, teaches the owners how to train and handle pups behaviour, socialise them etc. All done with pack behaviour in mind and was the best £35 we spent.

Had to ignore the bit about not letting dogs on your furniture, that was our own choice and Ella was allowed a fleecy blanket to perform her 'sit' command as her bum was too skinny for the church hall floor :- "

Their lead walking advice was good too, I didn't want a performing pet that can do all kinds of tricks on command, just wanted a well behaved gentle pet who walks good on lead and that's what we got

 

[em21]

ouch I remember this nipping well.We did what you've been advised, who cares if you sound silly, the consistency really pays off and it's nice to have a well mannered dog.

Are you taking Dudley to a puppy class ?

We took Ella, it was only £35 for 8 weeks, teaches the owners how to train and handle pups behaviour, socialise them etc. All done with pack behaviour in mind and was the best £35 we spent.

Had to ignore the bit about not letting dogs on your furniture, that was our own choice and Ella was allowed a fleecy blanket to perform her 'sit' command as her bum was too skinny for the church hall floor :- "

Their lead walking advice was good too, I didn't want a performing pet that can do all kinds of tricks on command, just wanted a well behaved gentle pet who walks good on lead and that's what we got 

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Yep, i'm a firm believer in training classes He is due to start on the 8th of August :thumbsup: This is 6 weeks, £45. I have been before with my mums pup and thought it was really good so I rang her asap to get a place. She does other classes as well, advanced etc but we will see how he goes. Like you, we just want a well mannered dog who understands basic commands.

Well at the minute I do this "AH AH" noise but the more he hurts the louder and grizzilier my "AH AH" gets! My OH finds it hilarious!! The cheek of him!!

Hmm yes, the sofa... Well this lady recommends to leave him till he is a year old then let him only when he is invited.... I've started early :lol: He can come up but only when invited I can't see it confusing him too much

Em x

 

[doggy182]

Hi,

My OH growls NO at Poppy and holds her muzzle, she stops biting straight away.

I make her sit and then walk away and stop playing with her for a bit, she is not too bad at biting really!

The sofa thing, Poppy is allowedon the sofas but she has to go on the floor when we are eating or guests are sitting on the sofa, she seems to understand that sometimes she just isnt allowed, dont think she is too confused!!

Carla xx

 

[jezza]

I always find that the word ENOUGH works better for me cos you can say it very firmly and also you can make it sound quite ferocious :- " It even stops Lenny when he's having a mad barking fit when a dog walks past the window

When it comes to biting, Lenny never did it as a pup but Molly was an absolute HORROR!!! We wondered if she would ever stop and then all of a sudden she did :cheers: we didn't really do anything, I think she just grew up!