Should she stay or should she go?

[jadewyatt123]

My female husky had attacked me when she was 5 months old. It started off with her getting told off and than she had suddenly growled at me. I had tapped her with my foot when she had suddenly bitten into it, luckily I was wearing a shoe. After that I had promised that if she showed aggression again that'll be it. Today she was being told off I reached her with my hand and she growled at it... She already alot of work compared to my other husky and is extremely dominant over everyone, I'm not sure I can trust her again after this. Should I get rid because I can't have this in a growing family household?

 

[lurcherman]

At five months the training is not finished but your training needs to be correct.

 

[jadewyatt123]

I know but she's 9 months now and has went for me again

 

[lurcherman]

If you let her go then make sure she goes to a experienced owner who's willing to try and correct, don't get me wrong there are devil dogs about that can't be corrected, best of luck

 

[jadewyatt123]

Yeah I'll make sure they are experienced with big dogs. I just don't know where it went wrong because my other husky is lovely and wouldn't hurt a fly.

 

[sher142]

Why on earth were you "telling off" a 20 week old puppy?? I'm sorry but you have set this pup up to fail in life, dogs don't do "dominant", she has been communicating since small via growling at you but you haven't listened to her and now all she has left is bite. Please seek an experienced trainer or behaviourist near you to help you to understand your dog's language or at least do a bit of research via COAPE, APDT, Ian Dunbar, Victoria Stilwell, Nando Brown, P McConnell etc etc into positive training and you may still be able to turn this pup around, she is still young. Watch Nando Brown on youtube or IMDT to see how to make her less afraid of your hands by teaching her hand target.

 

[Chatterdog]

As for positive trainers, some of them are hardly worth it. Stilwell adviced a couple to put the dog down when she couldn't 'fix it'. That is not acceptable and I have no time for her.

The way you are applying discipline may not work with her, try a more corrective way such as sound, a sharp ah! sound rather than no and move forward calmly until she gives you the space?

If you have experience with the breed but are struggling I would look for help from a trainer as they may see it with fresh eyes so to speak.

 

[jadewyatt123]

Why on earth were you "telling off" a 20 week old puppy?? I'm sorry but you have set this pup up to fail in life, dogs don't do "dominant", she has been communicating since small via growling at you but you haven't listened to her and now all she has left is bite. Please seek an experienced trainer or behaviourist near you to help you to understand your dog's language or at least do a bit of research via COAPE, APDT, Ian Dunbar, Victoria Stilwell, Nando Brown, P McConnell etc etc into positive training and you may still be able to turn this pup around, she is still young.

Really I came on this site for help instead I have stupid ass replies like that! I haven't saught advice to be belittled and redicaled I've had dogs all my life and never been attacked until this dog so quit the "this person has no clue what she's doing" crap and advice me rather than trying to belittle me. Better yet find some damn manners and respect!

 

[lurcherman]

Sher, I suppose your from the softy softy brigade??? See the two dogs on my avatar? Well the brindle has had my hard hands around it's snout a few times and let me tell you the dog has been a pleasure to own and isn't afraid or scared of me Infact he still follows me about in it's 13 th year so I for one am not scared of saying I rule hard if needed,

 

[jadewyatt123]

Same here. Of course dogs need dominance, I'm a big fan of Ceaser Millan and he says that a dog needs to be lead in order to be happy.

 

[lurcherman]

Cesear Milan I do like bit he's not everyone's cup of tea but each to there own.

 

[gypsysmum]

I agree that you need professional advice on this problem. COAPE or the APBC have the best qualified people. Your dog's behaviour could be caused by any manner of things and the first thing a behaviourist will want you to do is have a check up at the vet's to make sure the dog does not have any underlying conditions causing the behaviour.

In the meantime I would watch your dog's body language very carefully to help tell the behaviourist about it. They like to take an in depth history so try to remember when it all started and what happens before and after etc.

If, after trying to sort your dog, you feel the same then it would be best to rehome through the Dogs Trust as they do try to work with problem dogs to rehabilitate them.

Please don't follow Cesar Milan he had his tour of Britain cancelled due to public pressure over his inhumane methods.

 

[lurcherman]

The reason we have far too many out of control dogs is in my view we are far too soft, Caesar gets results end of the day,

 

[gypsysmum]

The trouble is the methods he uses are all on the cutting room floor!

I have seen an, largely uncut, film of him training a large dog that was jumping up and biting and clawing all the time. It shows him take the leash from the owner and walk along with the dog. The dog was calm and did not jump up. Cesar Milan gave him a sly kick in the ribs so the dog jumped up at him. At all times the dog was jumping up his body language was playful. The film zoomed in on CM's torn shirt as though the dog had mauled him badly.

CM had a choke chain on the dog and he strung it up so that the dog was hanging by it as his method of teaching the dog manners. The film was then cut. Next clip shows the dog lying prone on the ground with CM standing triumphantly over the motionless dog as though he had tamed a lion. The camera zoomed in and there was a pool of urine by the dog and the dog's gums were blue!!! He had strangled the poor thing into submission until it had fainted!

His method of saying Tsssch to a dog, to interrupt a behaviour, is taught to the dog by using an electric shock collar just as he says it. When the dog hears the Tssch sound it thinks it is going to get an electric shock.

I believe CM started out with a talent and empathy with dogs but has been hijacked by the big money TV people to provide a quick fix spectacle for TV. The money must have been too good to resist. He has been invited to attend seminars etc on more humane methods but, to my knowledge. has not accepted any of them. What dog trainer does not go on to learn more and improve their knowledge?

I have spoken to top behaviourists who, when offered tv work, have declined because they have no editorial control and know that all the months and months of hard work they put into improving a dog's behaviour will end up on the cutting room floor and the public will think that the dog was fixed in the space of a half hour programme. As we all know this is not the case.

 

[Shewbert]

I'm afraid that you brought your problems on yourself.

A dogs only line of defence is bite.

You have shown aggression to the dog, both with an attempted kick, waving hands over a dogs muzzle? your looking for a bite.

The dog has warned you on many occasions, either by body language or verbally by growling, a lot of dogs then go on to snapping, but not connecting with you as a warning.

Training rather than scolding should have been done in the earlier stages.

If a dog does not like something do not push it to do it, you change the "I dont like" into something that it does like.

The dog has a second sence it knows and can feel negative vibes, you are afraid of it, and the dog knows this, so no matter what you say it will not back down, he is now on a higher pecking order than you, and shows this by not backing down.

I personally think it is best to call it a day and let another owner undo everything that has happened.

you tried, we are not here to justify anything, only give the best advice that we think is correct.

Hope things work out soon before a serious bite comes along.

Shewy