Kelpie crossed border collie

[Prashanth bonda]

Hi I’ve got a new puppy kelpie crossed border collie 10 weeks old having him for 10days he’s really good.

 

[JudyN]

Welcome to the forum A poll to determine the cause of your pup's behaviour really isn't the way to go though - we would have to have a lot more information and discussion to get to the root of the problem.

However, at 10 weeks old, your pup will definitely be behaving like a normal lively pup, with no aggression involved whatsoever. Pups can be like little land sharks, and even have the odd tantrum when they don't get their way, and a kelpie/border collie could be more full on than most. Have a read of this article on puppy biting, but do ask if you have any questions: Puppy biting

 

[Prashanth bonda]

Hi thanks heaps for the reply and for the article I did had a look at the article. I understood and it matches most of them to my puppy behaviour it is just over excitement and we are trying our best to control that. I need tips to control him biting us and barking a lot. I need my puppy to sleep alone because our work timings has changed now we have to leave him alone for 2hours day time and there won’t be anyone in night to sleep next to him. So I need some tips to control his biting and barking and also sleep alone.

 

[Tinytom]

Are you both out working all night ...

 

[JudyN]

The article I linked to is specifically about puppy biting...

If he doesn't like being alone, and the barking is related to that, have a read of this article on separation anxiety: Separation anxiety

 

[Prashanth bonda]

Are you both out working all night ...

Nah I’ll be home night times he’ll feel asleep by 10:30 so I’ll go to sleep by that time one mate will be home by midnight 11:30 so at that time he wakes up and he wants to play and sleeps next to him but he’s going overseas even if I let him sleep close to me no point because I have to go to work by 6 in the morning so he’ll bark if I leave when he is awake.

 

[JoanneF]

So, you will be leaving him at 6 am - and you think he will bark - but how long are you leaving him for, and have you made arrangements for his care?

Sorry, I'm maybe missing something here but I'm not really sure what you are asking.

 

[Prashanth bonda]

So, you will be leaving him at 6 am - and you think he will bark - but how long are you leaving him for, and have you made arrangements for his care?

Sorry, I'm maybe missing something here but I'm not really sure what you are asking.

He’ll be alone for 2-3 hours in day times and I don’t want him to bark in night times if the person who sleeps close to him go to overseas. How to make him sleep without barking night times and leave him 2-3 hours alone during day times.

 

[Tinytom]

Can you have him in a crate or playpen beside your bed ...have you left a radio on when he is alone ...a nice stuffed Kong to keep him occupied..

 

[Prashanth bonda]

Can you have him in a crate or playpen beside your bed ...have you left a radio on when he is alone ...a nice stuffed Kong to keep him occupied..

I am crate training him but he’s bit smart taking time. I can arrange that may be.

 

[JudyN]

How to make him sleep without barking night times and leave him 2-3 hours alone during day times.

It takes time, and he's just a baby. Like a human baby, it'll be a while before he'll sleep soundly through the night. Did you read the article I linked to about separation anxiety?

 

[Prashanth bonda]

It takes time, and he's just a baby. Like a human baby, it'll be a while before he'll sleep soundly through the night. Did you read the article I linked to about separation anxiety?

Yeah I read the article lot I’ve to learn from that you are right he is baby and he is kind of like he wants to win one way the other. He tries to bite if we hold him he’ll make sounds like he’s hurt and if we leave him he’ll be coming back to bite again. That’s smart isn’t it. I want him to control that biting and barking.

 

[Hemlock]

It isn't about win and lose - it's about making him feel secure in this scary new world he's in. As has been said, he is a baby, he doesn't speak any human language and he's feeling his way. So are you. We can help you to help him, but first you need an understanding that he does what he does not to best you but because he doesn't know any different. So take the pressure off all of you, relax into your new world, show him what you want by making it easy for him to do it and then rewarding him when he does. You can't easily teach a negative, so stick to what you want not what you don't want e.g. not "I want him not to cry" but "why is he crying and how can I arrange his world so that he doesn't need to?"

Puppies are hard work. Herder puppies one of the harder sort because they are so intelligent. I'm sure you can rise to the challenge, and we'll help you every step.

 

[Prashanth bonda]

It isn't about win and lose - it's about making him feel secure in this scary new world he's in. As has been said, he is a baby, he doesn't speak any human language and he's feeling his way. So are you. We can help you to help him, but first you need an understanding that he does what he does not to best you but because he doesn't know any different. So take the pressure off all of you, relax into your new world, show him what you want by making it easy for him to do it and then rewarding him when he does. You can't easily teach a negative, so stick to what you want not what you don't want e.g. not "I want him not to cry" but "why is he crying and how can I arrange his world so that he doesn't need to?"

Puppies are hard work. Herder puppies one of the harder sort because they are so intelligent. I'm sure you can rise to the challenge, and we'll help you every step.

Yeah I’m trying to pat him give belly rubs he’s fine give him some treats when he is quiet but sometimes he really wants to bite hand if not he’ll get aggressive with that he even try to bite on face sometimes if we don’t let him do that he’ll bark and growl.

 

[JudyN]

As I've said, this isn't aggression. It's (over)excitement and his way of playing, even if those sharp teeth mark or break your skin. Play tug games with him, and always carry a toy with you so you can offer it as an alternative to your hand. But really, this is all explained in the article on puppy biting I linked to.

 

[Prashanth bonda]

His biting getting bit serious he just want bite us. He’ll sleep all day quiet doesn’t bark unless he wants to wee or poo want us to take him out. But in the nights after his meal he won’t sleep at all he’ll bark try to bite us really aggressive and plays. The way he behave in nights we feel like something wrong with him. We want to make him sleep alone. Because most of us start work at 6 am in the morning. So we can’t stay awake until 1am in the morning. We did tried doing that staying awake late sleeping only 3-4hours a day. But we want him to sleep alone and really we have to control his biting/mouthing he’s not playing toys he aims fingers.

 

[JudyN]

It's normal for puppies to be wild(er) in the evenings - it's called the zoomies, and it's not easy to persuade them to settle down - it takes time. Re the biting, have you consistently followed every step of the advice in the links you've been given? What do you do when his teeth touch your skin? How often are you giving him 'timeouts' and for how long? How is the impulse control training going? If he seems to be a night owl, have you tried giving him more mental stimulation during the daytime?

Train a 'calm settle', starting in the daytime when he's less manic - then it might carry over into bedtime, though it will take him a while to 'get' this - he's a baby, and babies don't 'get' bedtime for a long time.

I wouldn't focus on him sleeping on his own for now - what you need is simply for him to sleep at a reasonable time, whether it's on his own, by your bed, in a crate... Again, read over all the suggestions we've given already.

 

[Prashanth bonda]

Tried time outs sometimes it won’t work he barks a lot. As you said it’s hard to calm him down night times time outs doesn’t work with him during night times. Because the way he bites or trying to bite really hurting the fingers. Yeah may be we should calm him down during nights but early.

 

[JudyN]

How long are you leaving him in the timeouts for?

 

[Prashanth bonda]

When he really gets serious about biting I’ll just put him on his bed and I’ll walk off from the room for 40-50secs he’ll start barking continuously if I come back he’ll try to bite again.