I'm thinking of going to Crufts, still worrid about Covid.

[excuseme]

I would love to go to Crufts again this coming week bit still worried about the crowds and Covid.
I would prefer to go on Gundog day but my daughter works on Thursdays, her days off each week are Fridays (pastoral + working) and Sundays.
My daughter would drive and have the day out with me, (all at my expense, of course)
I obviously don't have to go and it is my choice, I would also wear a mask.
Am I being silly going with so many people from all over the country and with many from abroad too. I am 73 and fully vaccinated. ?
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[JudyN]

I don't think you're silly at all. Cautious, yes. On the one hand, there is still a lot of covid around and you will be mingling with a lot of other people, but on the other hand, if you're fully vaccinated then if you do have it, you are very unlikely to develop symptoms worse than a bad cold/flu.

Looking online, for the week ending 26 Feb, overall hospital admission rate of patients with confirmed COVID-19 in England decreased to 8.62 per 100,000 people, so you would certainly be unlucky to get it badly. As for getting it at all... in the past week, 1 person in 2280 tested positive - and most people are mingling frequently, though then again a lot of people who have mild symptoms won't bother doing a test.

Whether you go or not has to be your decision, of course. Earlier in the winter, hospital admissions for seasonal flu were higher than those for covid - would you have gone to Crufts if there was a seasonal flu bug doing the rounds.

 

[JoanneF]

It's a tough choice, for sure. Only you know what feels right for you.

I was at Crufts in 2020, just a few days before our first lockdown. I've also been to relatively busy places since, and so far to the best of my knowledge, I haven't had covid. If I have, I've been totally asymptomatic. Not that that should affect your choice, only you will know what's right for you.

 

[excuseme]

Thank you for your replies @JudyN and @JoanneF.

You have made my decision a lot easier, NOT !
I remember Joanne going to Crufts back in 2020 and our vaccinations had not started back then, there is no way I would have considered it at all back then.

I had Covid about 1 year ago after going out for a meal with our Game Keeper and a few others in a local pub. Both myself and Husband went down with Covid a few days later, mine was no worse than a normal type of cold but husband suffered with a very chesty cough that lasted a lot longer than my cold did, and he had "man flu" symptoms. Poor soul

 

[JudyN]

If you decide to go, you could consider wearing a more protective mask - though it's difficult to find conclusive answers there too. One site I saw recommended wearing two masks - maybe a standard disposable and then a fabric one on top. Both should be well fitting.

I think I've had covid twice - the first time fairly mild, and the second time I felt quite poorly, though my chest was fine and I didn't cough at night. We see a lot of our granddaughter who is a germ vector, plus her parents both socialise quite a lot, and her mum is an assistant teacher... it's like musical germs.

 

[excuseme]

We have still got a few boxes of masks. I hadn't thought of wearing 2 at the same time, that's a good idea
I will have a look around for a fabric one to wear over the basic one also.

Thank you both for your help. XX

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[JoanneF]

there is no way I would have considered it at all back then.

If we had known more, we probably wouldn't have done either. It was way, way back at the start before we understood how bad it might get - in fact, we even thought about going up north in the motorhome for a couple of weeks, thinking it would all be over by the time we got back.

If only.

 

[excuseme]

That was a lucky escape!

 

[Tinytom]

We had tickets to the ideal home show but we aren't going now ...I am coming up 52 hubby is 67 ...I have tested negative for covid but had an awful flu virus and norovirus and was off my feet for a week ...the only place I can think i went to was Morrison's on my way home and it was packed ...thought it was Christmas
I have never felt so rough ...our GP is convinced that covid has mutated and the lateral flow tests aren't detecting it .....
What ever your decision...stay as safe as you can xxx

 

[excuseme]

I have been thinking about Crufts, and have come to the decision that I am going to keep my sensible head on and will not be not going to Crufts.

I have a chesty cold at the moment (tested Covid clear Yesterday) I think I would be silly putting myself in a situation with other viruses in such a close and busy environment. (even wearing double masks)
Gundog day would have been my choice but that is on Thursday and we can only go on Friday.
I also have to think about my husband who is 5 years older than myself and what I may bring home for him to catch too.

I have made my decision

Thank you all for your valuable input. XX

 

[Robins mum]

I would love to go to Crufts again this coming week bit still worried about the crowds and Covid.
I would prefer to go on Gundog day but my daughter works on Thursdays, her days off each week are Fridays (pastoral + working) and Sundays.
My daughter would drive and have the day out with me, (all at my expense, of course)
I obviously don't have to go and it is my choice, I would also wear a mask.
Am I being silly going with so many people from all over the country and with many from abroad too. I am 73 and fully vaccinated. ?
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Hi, I think you are wise to be cautious - HOWEVER! Do not loose sight of the fact that the coronavirus' have been around for years and years and years! always and frequently changing to become the worst they have ever been! It is stuff like that that keeps challenging and improving our immunities as they are recognised quickly in our bodies, Keeping our immune system healthy is the best defence but this is not easy to do as SUGAR is the worst item on the planet for shattering our systems!

You also should take into consideration your personal health, but don't forget either that challenging your system carefully will help strengthen it!

Also (and sure am putting my head on the block for this one - but here goes! ...) Covid is fast transmitting, but there are MANY people that have supposedly died from COVID but this is NOT the truth! I know for a fact that many, many people have died clearly from other reasons - for example fall from ladder - broken neck - instantaneous death, this has been changed to COVID19 so we have and still are being conned..


Needless to say that there ARE some people who are more vulnerable, if you are in this catergory then definately take more care, remember that a mask will NOT protect YOU it will protect others. There are full visors that would protect you better also hand washing is one of the best ways to avoid spreading bacteria you could take a small bottle of alco-gel along (although I am not sure of its' effectiveness on Covid)

We are a long time dead, you are the only person who can make this descision you have to do what is right for you. Best of luck!

 

[Tinytom]

Wise decision....better to be safe than sorry xxx

 

[JudyN]

Covid is fast transmitting, but there are MANY people that have supposedly died from COVID but this is NOT the truth!

Do you have any reliable data to back that up? Yes, there is a difference between covid appearing on the death certificate as something that the person had at the time of death and may or may not have contributed to the death and covid appearing as the cause of death, a subtlety that the media have not always recognised. And if if someone has a number of conditions, it can be impossible to say which actually caused the death. But these figures are available, and the difference between the two is not very large. I would personally ignore any claims that come from 'a friend of a friend', and anything that smacks of conspiracy theory.

 

[Robins mum]

Do you have any reliable data to back that up? Yes, there is a difference between covid appearing on the death certificate as something that the person had at the time of death and may or may not have contributed to the death and covid appearing as the cause of death, a subtlety that the media have not always recognised. And if if someone has a number of conditions, it can be impossible to say which actually caused the death. But these figures are available, and the difference between the two is not very large. I would personally ignore any claims that come from 'a friend of a friend', and anything that smacks of conspiracy theory.

Understand, however that has been direct from someone in a very high position but who obviously cannot be named

 

[JudyN]

To be fair, there's a lot of people in high positions who have spouted rubbish throughout the pandemic

 

[Hemlock]

I think that as you are already fighting off an infection it's a wise decision not to stress your immune system any further.

 

[Feverfew]

I have been thinking about Crufts, and have come to the decision that I am going to keep my sensible head on and will not be not going to Crufts.

I have a chesty cold at the moment (tested Covid clear Yesterday) I think I would be silly putting myself in a situation with other viruses in such a close and busy environment. (even wearing double masks)
Gundog day would have been my choice but that is on Thursday and we can only go on Friday.
I also have to think about my husband who is 5 years older than myself and what I may bring home for him to catch too.

I have made my decision

Thank you all for your valuable input. XX

I didn't want to comment on this until you had decided, but I think you have made the right decision.

One factor is that people come from all over the world to Crufts, travelling by plane and from who knows what level of infection or variants. That certainly increases the risk.

The second point is that although Covid is no longer making the headlines, it is still very much present for people who have contracted long Covid. There are a host of related conditions associated with even mild cases of Covid, and I know this because I now have heart arrhythmia as a result of a very mild Covid infection. My family has zero history of heart disease and the cardiologist says she has seen many, many more cases of heart problems, including heart attacks in younger age groups that it is thought may be due to Covid. So it is not just the risk.of a bad cold, but long term effects.
It's a shame to miss it, but there's always the TV coverage, and I hope you and your husband can enjoy that this year.

 

[excuseme]

I am making do with the TV coverage, but unfortunately this is no substitute for the real thing. I know that I have made the right decision and do not regret not going.
I have found in the past that going when you have a friend exhibiting a dog, also makes the whole experience far more worthwhile.

Unfortunately there are some people who think Covid is over, I am not one of them.

We may take ourselves to an outside Country Show event in the summer, we have not been to one since before Covid started. I do enjoy the "New Forest County Show" or maybe "Ardingly", both with plenty of fresh air (although still quiet crowded).

There will always be another year for Crufts.
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