Waitress/waiters taking orders.

[excuseme]

I am very disappointed that in our local pub/ restaurant, where we eat once a week, that none of the staff wear any type of face covering/protection, not even the landlord!
We always walk into the pub with a face mask on and only remove it once we are seated. There is a huge container of 70% alcoholic hand gel at the door and smaller bottles at various places around the very clean and spacious areas, with clear see through safety barriers between all tables, some tables have also been removed to create greater distance.
Yet the waiting staff come to our tables without any face protection,(not even the clear plastic types) they go from one table to another, they stand quiet close to take orders and as we are sitting they talk down to us.
Their breath must pass over us and ours must also transmit to them too, they walk in and out of the kitchens for food orders that are to be given to their customers (as they reach very closely to deliver the plates of food to each customer). If anyone is going to spread the Covid virus it must surely be these people.

I am by no means suggesting that the pubs/restaurants should be closed, just that the staff should wear protective face coverings themselves.
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[JudyN]

I thought it was compulsory for serving staff to wear them now:

Face coverings must be worn by retail, leisure and hospitality staff working in areas that are open to the public and where they’re likely to come into contact with a member of the public. This includes:

• shops
• supermarkets
• bars
• pubs
• restaurants..

...If these businesses have taken steps in line with Health and Safety Executive guidance for COVID-19 secure workplaces to create a physical barrier between workers and members of the public then staff behind the barrier will not be required to wear a face covering. (Face coverings: when to wear one, exemptions, and how to make your own)

OH won't eat out at the moment unless we sit outside, and it's a bit chilly for that now. We haven't got any relevant preexisting conditions apart from getting on a bit, but it just feels like an unnecessary risk. And of course, it's not just your own health that could be affected if you get infected, but that of anyone else you spend time with.

 

[lurcherman]

Well me thinks pubs and clubs should be closed, many people in these places don’t respect this virus one bit, sorry to say a pub is not a place I need to go to while the virus is spreading,, excuseme just report this shamble of a pub.

 

[JudyN]

In theory, if a pub is open, social distancing can be controlled, people's contact details can be taken, and appropriate protection can be used by all. Anyone not observing the rules could be shown the door and then thrown bodily out of it. If pubs etc. were all closed, people would go round to each other's houses, whether allowed or not, get sloshed and not distance in the slightest - then go home, and to work, and infect everyone else.

Then, I think of my uncle - he's old and not in great health, but his life revolves round walking to the pub, having a pint or two with friends, and walking home again. Yes, there's a risk, but for him, take this away and his mental health will decline enormously, as will his physical health as he probably wouldn't walk anywhere else.

It's very difficult - we all know a harder, longer lockdown would be effective if almost everyone complied (or at least buy us time to develop a vaccine), but the more restrictions there are, the more people will not just ignore them, but indulge in even more risky behaviours. So I think my choice would be to keep these establishments open, have great big scary bouncers enforcing the rules, and have police/military prowling in areas where people are likely to gather at close range.

 

[lurcherman]

There’s more rebelling than you think, just look at then scouse young idiots last night, no respect for the old or ill , I’m sick to death of them and I’d love to see them in a dark alley .

 

[JudyN]

There’s more rebelling than you think

How much rebelling do you think I think there is? This is the point - we all know that there are very many complete BLEEPS! out there who wouldn't care if they infected their own granny, and there are also idiots wittering on about their human rights being affected by the wearing of masks, ignoring other people's rights to walk around safely, and those who believe that the virus is a myth, and the vaccines will lead to mind control or something, and we need tinfoil hats to protect us from 5G.... Lord knows how they manage to even spell their own names.

But it's no use just saying what these people should do and dreaming of what we'd like to do to them - the government need to work out the best way of controlling the virus taking into account that people like this exist. Given their keenness to blame everything on anyone but them, I don't have much confidence in this though...

 

[excuseme]

We went to our pub last Wednesday, maybe the law had not specified this last week. We are due to go again tomorrow, or maybe not!
Where will I find written information about this. If they are not wearing protective covering this week I will quiet happily report them.

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[JudyN]

Where will I find written information about this.

It's at the link I posted - you could print off the relevant bit: Face coverings: when to wear one, exemptions, and how to make your own

I'm not sure when it came into force though.

 

[excuseme]

Oh yes, I see, but there's absolutely loads of it, how can I select a piece of this information without having to print everything ?

 

[Tinytom]

We went out to a pub on the 3rd October and all of the staff were wearing face coverings ...if reported they face a hefty fine ..i wouldnt go to a pub and eat if the staff werent wearing a face covering ...

 

[Biker John]

My friend and I, (and of course Folly), have had a Sunday lunch in a pub for the last two Sundays and they were well organized. Plenty of space between tables, all staff we saw wearing masks, some items on a blackboard and we were asked if we wanted a disposable menu, (as their was a choice of roast dinners on the board we didn't). They gave us a slip to write our names etc on. Taking the order he kept well away and when they brought it they were close for as short a time as possible. One staff member told a chap off for going to the loo without putting his mask on. So we were happy with them and will be going to the same pub in future, assuming we remain allowed to.

 

[JudyN]

Oh yes, I see, but there's absolutely loads of it, how can I select a piece of this information without having to print everything ?

Select the part you want, to highlight the text. Then press Ctrl+P and, in the print dialogue box, choose 'Selection', then click 'Print'. Does that work for you?

 

[excuseme]

It did not work, I had 5 pages before I managed to stop the printer!
Never mind, I will try again later. I blame Windows 10
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[excuseme]

I have told Hubby about this and his reply was that we won't go there again.
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[JudyN]

It did not work, I had 5 pages before I managed to stop the printer!

I don't suppose one of them was the right page!!

You could peer in through the windows next time you pass and see if they've upped their game.

 

[Jan Woodhall]

I am very disappointed that in our local pub/ restaurant, where we eat once a week, that none of the staff wear any type of face covering/protection, not even the landlord!
We always walk into the pub with a face mask on and only remove it once we are seated. There is a huge container of 70% alcoholic hand gel at the door and smaller bottles at various places around the very clean and spacious areas, with clear see through safety barriers between all tables, some tables have also been removed to create greater distance.
Yet the waiting staff come to our tables without any face protection,(not even the clear plastic types) they go from one table to another, they stand quiet close to take orders and as we are sitting they talk down to us.
Their breath must pass over us and ours must also transmit to them too, they walk in and out of the kitchens for food orders that are to be given to their customers (as they reach very closely to deliver the plates of food to each customer). If anyone is going to spread the Covid virus it must surely be these people.

I am by no means suggesting that the pubs/restaurants should be closed, just that the staff should wear protective face coverings themselves.
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#well - don't go there?

 

[excuseme]

@JudyN said. You could peer in through the windows next time you pass and see if they've upped their game.[/QUOTE]

It is an out of the way country pub, you have to know where it is to find it, but would have to turn round to get back home. It would be difficult to keep an eye on things without the possibility of being seen. Such a shame.
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[excuseme]

@JudyN . No I think I stopped the printer too soon!