Recall

[jkbjackson]

Hi All,

Had a Bit of a scare this afteroon while walking Our 17 Month old Whippet Lofty. He Lead snapped while out walking and he ran off. After 15 Mins of running around and not seeing him once my Husband finally found a Very Nice lady who was walkig hers dogs had noticed he was lost and put a lead on him.

I just wanted to Know what everyone thinks its the best recall to learn him. We have tried with treats but as soon as he knows we have treats he wont move from our feet and when he dose as soon as we let him off the lead he just shoots off and keeps runing and not bothered by the treats. This is our first whippet and we really want to learn him to not run away while off the lead.

Any Advice is welcome

Thanks

 

[k4tie-d]

i found teaching recall hard!

Zoe my darling daughter :devil: will for no reason just shout on them to come, and then ignor them if they do come :blink:

so when we were out and about if you shouted they would rarely come as they were so used to being called and ignored.

i bought a whistle and started in the garden with a bag of treats (hidden) took 2 out when the wernt looking and then stood quite close to them blow the whistle and handed them the treat.

i showed them there was no more in my hand and they went about their buisness,

a few more times of this and they cottened on that if the whistle blow, theres a treat to be had

so when we went out the first time they came back everytime for a treat, and aslong as they can see you have no more in your hands they happily go back to what ever they were doing.

my OH somtimes forgets the treats when he is out, which means the next walk they can be a bit slower in coming back, but as long as you make sure you only use the whistle when you have a treat availible they do come back.

even wee Tyg who was only here 2 weeks came learnt the whistle in less than 10mins (although he was only ever in the garden)

i would say our recall is now at 98% which im pretty happy with

so id definatly recomend you give it a try cause its worked wonders for us :thumbsup:

 

[whippetsrus]

The other good method working on the same principle as what Katie mentioned would be clicker training. You would proceed in exactly the same way but instead of using the whistle you would use a clicker. I used this with Diesel and his recall is superb.

 

[masta]

Hi All,
Had a Bit of a scare this afteroon while walking Our 17 Month old Whippet Lofty. He Lead snapped while out walking and he ran off. After 15 Mins of running around and not seeing him once my Husband finally found a Very Nice lady who was walkig hers dogs had noticed he was lost and put a lead on him.

I just wanted to Know what everyone thinks its the best recall to learn him. We have tried with treats but as soon as he knows we have treats he wont move from our feet and when he dose as soon as we let him off the lead he just shoots off and keeps runing and not bothered by the treats. This is our first whippet and we really want to learn him to not run away while off the lead.

Any Advice is welcome

Thanks

Its not "what" more likely what you "didnt" (do) if he is 17 months old and from what i can gather has probaly spent most of his exercise time on a lead then i would expect him to run off when he had the chance thats what whippets like doing the trick is to allow free run in a very safe enviroment and not to stress, sometimes you have to gauge when you can start to call him back ie let him play awhile and run his energy off, i start all my dogs at 10 weeks we go to were i walk all the dogs(safe) and they are put down and i walk they follow and every now and then they go off and play and are called back and praised even after a couple of days they are understanding the concept, but if you have walked them on a lead they will spend the whole time hoping they will get off to run so of course once off they will go for it big time and will be relunctant to return unless its on their terms.

i would hunt round find somewere safe(maybe a fenced sports field) let him off and walk yourself dont look at him and when he has had a good tear around call him back praise him walk on an call again making sure you make a big fuss when he returns do that every day have confidence and show him you trust.

I walk 5 every day and quite often late at night(winter darkness) all running free and have used the aboth method, lots will say its wrong but i have had sighthounds all my life and have used this method for all with 100% success

Good luck

 

[FeeFee]

Training recall is a big subject, and hard to cover in a paragraph or two. Have you thought about taking him to a training class? He's at the age where most dogs really enjoy it and you'll get some excellent tips for training him that you can go away and practice at home and out on walks.

If there's a Clicker training class near you, even better. As whippetsrus says, Clicker Training is great fun for dogs and owners, and most dogs start to respond very quickly - classes are excellent for socialisation too.

There's a list of APDT registered trainers by area here: http://www.apdt.co.uk/local_dog_trainers.asp

A few basic tips that have worked for me

- use a special word for recall ('Come' or whatever). Dogs hear their names hundreds of times a day, they have no idea that someone yelling their name means they have to do anything.

- use high-value food rewards such as chicken or sausage that he only gets for recall - start round the house and garden and call him at random and give him lots of praise and a food reward. He'll soon get the idea!

- never sound angry with him when he comes back to you, or you'll be completely stuffed the next time you want him to return. Easier said than done if the little so-and-so has led you a merry dance for half an hour, but you have to treat him as though he's absolutely the best and most fantastic dog in the world and give him lots of praise and fuss every time he comes back. A pat on the head and a 'good dog' isn't enough you have to be REALLY happy to see him.

- don't recall him when you know he's going to ignore you (when he's sniffing something really interesting or playing with another dog), that just teaches him that recall is optional. You're aiming for 'brainwashing' him to the point that when he hears 'come' he doesn't even stop to think about whether to obey or not, he just does it.

- a long training line or lunge-line (on a harness for safety) can be a good way to test recall outside. Once you are happy that he's coming back reliably you can try letting him off in a safe place.

- call him back regularly on walks, hold his collar and give him his fuss and reward then let him go again, so he doesn't think that coming back means 'lead on and end of walk'. I wouldn't worry about the fact he stays close to you if he knows you have treats, that's absolutely fine. Let him stick close to you, use your recall word every now and again and reward him. He'll soon get the hang of the fact he only gets a treat if you call him and he'll be happy to go off and explore and run around.

Good luck!

 

[posh totty]

Hi All,
Had a Bit of a scare this afteroon while walking Our 17 Month old Whippet Lofty. He Lead snapped while out walking and he ran off. After 15 Mins of running around and not seeing him once my Husband finally found a Very Nice lady who was walkig hers dogs had noticed he was lost and put a lead on him.

I just wanted to Know what everyone thinks its the best recall to learn him. We have tried with treats but as soon as he knows we have treats he wont move from our feet and when he dose as soon as we let him off the lead he just shoots off and keeps runing and not bothered by the treats. This is our first whippet and we really want to learn him to not run away while off the lead.

Any Advice is welcome

Thanks

Its not "what" more likely what you "didnt" (do) if he is 17 months old and from what i can gather has probaly spent most of his exercise time on a lead then i would expect him to run off when he had the chance thats what whippets like doing the trick is to allow free run in a very safe enviroment and not to stress, sometimes you have to gauge when you can start to call him back ie let him play awhile and run his energy off, i start all my dogs at 10 weeks we go to were i walk all the dogs(safe) and they are put down and i walk they follow and every now and then they go off and play and are called back and praised even after a couple of days they are understanding the concept, but if you have walked them on a lead they will spend the whole time hoping they will get off to run so of course once off they will go for it big time and will be relunctant to return unless its on their terms.

i would hunt round find somewere safe(maybe a fenced sports field) let him off and walk yourself dont look at him and when he has had a good tear around call him back praise him walk on an call again making sure you make a big fuss when he returns do that every day have confidence and show him you trust.

I walk 5 every day and quite often late at night(winter darkness) all running free and have used the aboth method, lots will say its wrong but i have had sighthounds all my life and have used this method for all with 100% success

Good luck

excellent advice , do almost exactly the same with my pups and you have seen the recall mine have , i think at one point we were doing a fastest recall comp lol

 

[bertha]

Brilliant reply Feefee. Can you take my Pye and get him to do all that??????????? He is totally deaf off the lead, no eye contact, nothing. I have given up letting him off, he just goes hunting.

Been back to basics twice and failed.

Good luck with your training, my dog is a one off, all my others are fine. :lol:

 

[teachtrinity]

You have some excellent advice there, is your dog 17 weeks or 17 months? there is quite a difference in how quickly they will learn new things

I have to agree with Katie too, whistle training is great, I trained Molly (12 month old) right from 8 weeks with a whistle and found it worked really well. I did use a clicker too but found the whistle is better with recall. Molly will comeback with a whistle even when she is chasing bunnies. I have now started whistle training Maia (8 weeks) with the whistle in the house and the garden. I also swear by liver cake as a yummy training treat.

a great site with advice on whistle training

http://www.canineconcepts.co.uk/ccp51/cc/d...g-whistle.shtml

there is loads of other advice on there too

Good luck

 

[FeeFee]

Brilliant reply Feefee. Can you take my Pye and get him to do all that??????????? He is totally deaf off the lead, no eye contact, nothing. I have given up letting him off, he just goes hunting.Been back to basics twice and failed.

Good luck with your training, my dog is a one off, all my others are fine. :lol:

One of my old Greyhounds, Des, was like that, I had to give up and keep him on a long lead in the end. We went back to basics with recall more time than I can count, but as soon as he was off the lead outside the house his brain went to La La Land and he took no notice of me whatsoever. :lol:

 

[karen21]

Recall is my favourite subject - not!

Paula, who is 10 months old, would not come back to me if I had a 25lb turkey all cut up ready to give her. She is not food orientated and has no favourite treats - and believe me, I've tried them all, liver, sausages, chicken - everything.

In fact, it's all I can do to get her to eat! Eating food is not on her list of things to do - she will eat anything else - phones (1), my bra (2), socks(as many as she can steal) etc.

There is a story on my blog about her recall abilities (and one about my phone!), I am hoping that when I find her a friend, she will learn to return with her new friend.

I live in hope...

Karen

 

[sue burton]

i found teaching recall hard!Zoe my darling daughter :devil: will for no reason just shout on them to come, and then ignor them if they do come :blink:

so when we were out and about if you shouted they would rarely come as they were so used to being called and ignored.

i bought a whistle and started in the garden with a bag of treats (hidden) took 2 out when the wernt looking and then stood quite close to them blow the whistle and handed them the treat.

i showed them there was no more in my hand and they went about their buisness,

a few more times of this and they cottened on that if the whistle blow, theres a treat to be had

so when we went out the first time they came back everytime for a treat, and aslong as they can see you have no more in your hands they happily go back to what ever they were doing.

my OH somtimes forgets the treats when he is out, which means the next walk they can be a bit slower in coming back, but as long as you make sure you only use the whistle when you have a treat availible they do come back.

even wee Tyg who was only here 2 weeks came learnt the whistle in less than 10mins (although he was only ever in the garden)

i would say our recall is now at 98% which im pretty happy with

so id definatly recomend you give it a try cause its worked wonders for us :thumbsup:

he still comes to the whistle thank you Katie job well done

 

[Suerose]

Recall is my favourite subject - not!
Paula, who is 10 months old, would not come back to me if I had a 25lb turkey all cut up ready to give her. She is not food orientated and has no favourite treats - and believe me, I've tried them all, liver, sausages, chicken - everything.

In fact, it's all I can do to get her to eat! Eating food is not on her list of things to do - she will eat anything else - phones (1), my bra (2), socks(as many as she can steal) etc.

There is a story on my blog about her recall abilities (and one about my phone!), I am hoping that when I find her a friend, she will learn to return with her new friend.

I live in hope...

Karen

Have you tried cheddar cheese? Grace isn't that bothered about food but she would do anything for a bit of cheddar. Love your blog BTW.