Little Update.

[Misslara]

Hi all just a little tippy update after having her G/A she she has been quite well shes eating really well again fingers crossed she continues :-

She has been for another check up today at the vets and she was please with her althought she still has a snotty nose but today when she examined her she noticed one of her top big molars on left side is rotten and she thinks it could be infected shes but her on strong abs and then she is going to do a dental and have a look whats going on,shes now thinking that this could be the problem causing the snotty nose! as its the left nostril.

So fingers crossed they may sort out the snotty nose. her chest and heart are sounding good the vet said just need her to contiue to put weight on.

 

[eve]

Glad your Tippy is OK

I cannot believe that your vet did not check her teeth when she was under the GA and do something about the tooth then.

If she requires a dental she will need another GA. Very risky with her heart condition.

I would seriously question why your vet did not check her teeth sooner given her problems. Teeth would have been one of the most obvious suspects for her having a snotty nose problem.

They sound like they are just after your money or incompetent.

Glad that she is OK and pray that she does not need another GA

 

[Misslara]

Well yes i did question that it was mai topic of discussion in our house last night ! and she did say she wished she had looked at her teeth while under but Tippy was quite poorly at the time and i think she focused on her heart and weight problems although saying that she did look in her mouth everytime i took her !

To be honest i do look in her mouth at her teeth and noticed it but i'm no vet

I do trust my vet as she was the only vet that picked up Tippys heart condition another vet treated her for kennel cough for 3 months kept handing out the ABS over the phone after one consultation.

I think she will need a dental as the tooth is black ! she has had 2 G/As this year and they keep an extra eye on her !

 

[eve]

Personally, I would not trust a vet that missed something so obvious when dealing with swallowing / breathing difficulites.

Is Tippy insured?

I often think that some vets view insured dogs as a 'dripping roast'

It would only have taken your vet a couple of minutes to check Tippy's teeth while she was under.

There really is no excuse.

Personal opinion but I would be changing my vet.

 

[Misslara]

NO not insured ! i do like her because she has whippets herself and her parenets use to breed them.

I think she was thinking because of the heart and possible tumor it was related ? but shes had swabs and a camera up her nose and nothing.

I did wonder about changing but will she have to have all her xrays again ? and who do you go to thats the question we have had several vets now and all the same to me want your money !!

 

[~Sarah~]

Personally, I would not trust a vet that missed something so obvious when dealing with swallowing / breathing difficulites.Is Tippy insured?

I often think that some vets view insured dogs as a 'dripping roast'

It would only have taken your vet a couple of minutes to check Tippy's teeth while she was under.

There really is no excuse.

Personal opinion but I would be changing my vet.

I would tend to agree. Such a pity they didn't take the opportunity to look at her teeth while she was under GA.

I don't think I would be happy to pay another GA charge for the dental which could so easily have been done the first time.

Glad to hear Tippy is improving and hope she continues to get better. :luck: :luck:

 

[whippetsrus]

Hope Tippy continues to improve :thumbsup:

 

[Lisa S]

Good luck for Tippy's continued recovery :luck:

 

[TillynPip]

Just read this and am sorry your little girl is unwell. I would be upset with a vet in these circumstances and I wouldn't expect to be charged for a second GA to check something they really should have looked at in the first place, quite apart from the risks involved. If you did decide to change your vet or seek a second opinion, remember the xrays are yours, you paid for them! Good luck. :luck:

 

[wild whippies]

It's not unusual for the roots of the upper teeth to lie right under the sinus lining. If the tooth becomes infected they will display signs like you describe. My own bitch had an occasional discharge and sneezing which I initially put down to allergy. It was only whilst she was under a GA to remove a lower tooth that a discovery was made that she had an infected upper molar. I was there during the GA and the tooth was actually decayed on the root under the gum. I don't think it would of been found only for the fact the vet was doing some scaling during the GA and the scaler goes along the gum line so problems can indeed be missed. The sneezing and the dripping nose stopped straight away.

Yes GA has risks, yes perhaps the vet should of checked but in fairness in urgent situations like anaesthetising a dog with possible heart problems, dental problems may not neccesarily be high on the agenda. With hindsight, it would of been better for them to check, with hindsight, it would of been better for you also to mention a bad tooth as you'd noticed it too but shutting door after horse has bolted is pointless.

If the tooth that's 'black' is an upper tooth, I'd want that removing as it's a potential culprit to her nasal problems and could be a red herring to her symptoms.

With regards to heart, infected teeth can contribute to bacterial endocarditis (infection of the heart valves) BUT in the humans I've experienced with it they've a) had an existing heart valve problem or b) they've been very ill individuals with a mouthful of grossly decayed teeth and other health issues (specifically, immuno compromised). Dogs can also get bacterial endocarditis but the full blood count you've had done should of rang any bells if this was the case. But by all means check with the vet that this is the case.

There is something niggling me, especially with you saying another vet was treating the cough for 3 months prior to all this being found. Can you check with the vet that lungworm isn't a possibility? I think the swabs would of found but I'd sooner mention it and be wrong than not mention it all.

Wishing Tippy the best of luck. :luck:

Jac

 

[Misslara]

It's not unusual for the roots of the upper teeth to lie right under the sinus lining. If the tooth becomes infected they will display signs like you describe. My own bitch had an occasional discharge and sneezing which I initially put down to allergy. It was only whilst she was under a GA to remove a lower tooth that a discovery was made that she had an infected upper molar. I was there during the GA and the tooth was actually decayed on the root under the gum. I don't think it would of been found only for the fact the vet was doing some scaling during the GA and the scaler goes along the gum line so problems can indeed be missed. The sneezing and the dripping nose stopped straight away.
Yes GA has risks, yes perhaps the vet should of checked but in fairness in urgent situations like anaesthetising a dog with possible heart problems, dental problems may not neccesarily be high on the agenda. With hindsight, it would of been better for them to check, with hindsight, it would of been better for you also to mention a bad tooth as you'd noticed it too but shutting door after horse has bolted is pointless.

If the tooth that's 'black' is an upper tooth, I'd want that removing as it's a potential culprit to her nasal problems and could be a red herring to her symptoms.

With regards to heart, infected teeth can contribute to bacterial endocarditis (infection of the heart valves) BUT in the humans I've experienced with it they've a) had an existing heart valve problem or b) they've been very ill individuals with a mouthful of grossly decayed teeth and other health issues (specifically, immuno compromised). Dogs can also get bacterial endocarditis but the full blood count you've had done should of rang any bells if this was the case. But by all means check with the vet that this is the case.

There is something niggling me, especially with you saying another vet was treating the cough for 3 months prior to all this being found. Can you check with the vet that lungworm isn't a possibility? I think the swabs would of found but I'd sooner mention it and be wrong than not mention it all.

Wishing Tippy the best of luck. :luck:

Jac

Thankyou for your reply very imformative ! she was tested for lungworm right at the start the other vet treated her for what he thought was kennel cough but we have another little dog and when he did not pick it up i began to think something else was wrong myself so changed vets.

I didn't mention the tooth as Tippy was so poorly at the the time i just didn't think and as i was told this was all coming from her heart i left it in the vets hands.

This little whippet has no insurance and we love her to bits and she is having the best love care and attention we can give she she costs us a fourtune but hey whats money..lol

 

[Misslara]

It's not unusual for the roots of the upper teeth to lie right under the sinus lining. If the tooth becomes infected they will display signs like you describe. My own bitch had an occasional discharge and sneezing which I initially put down to allergy. It was only whilst she was under a GA to remove a lower tooth that a discovery was made that she had an infected upper molar. I was there during the GA and the tooth was actually decayed on the root under the gum. I don't think it would of been found only for the fact the vet was doing some scaling during the GA and the scaler goes along the gum line so problems can indeed be missed. The sneezing and the dripping nose stopped straight away.
Yes GA has risks, yes perhaps the vet should of checked but in fairness in urgent situations like anaesthetising a dog with possible heart problems, dental problems may not neccesarily be high on the agenda. With hindsight, it would of been better for them to check, with hindsight, it would of been better for you also to mention a bad tooth as you'd noticed it too but shutting door after horse has bolted is pointless.

If the tooth that's 'black' is an upper tooth, I'd want that removing as it's a potential culprit to her nasal problems and could be a red herring to her symptoms.

With regards to heart, infected teeth can contribute to bacterial endocarditis (infection of the heart valves) BUT in the humans I've experienced with it they've a) had an existing heart valve problem or b) they've been very ill individuals with a mouthful of grossly decayed teeth and other health issues (specifically, immuno compromised). Dogs can also get bacterial endocarditis but the full blood count you've had done should of rang any bells if this was the case. But by all means check with the vet that this is the case.

There is something niggling me, especially with you saying another vet was treating the cough for 3 months prior to all this being found. Can you check with the vet that lungworm isn't a possibility? I think the swabs would of found but I'd sooner mention it and be wrong than not mention it all.

Wishing Tippy the best of luck. :luck:

Jac

Thankyou for your reply very imformative ! she was tested for lungworm right at the start the other vet treated her for what he thought was kennel cough but we have another little dog and when he did not pick it up i began to think something else was wrong myself so changed vets.

I didn't mention the tooth as Tippy was so poorly at the the time i just didn't think and as i was told this was all coming from her heart i left it in the vets hands.

This little whippet has no insurance and we love her to bits and she is having the best love care and attention we can give she she costs us a fourtune but hey whats money..lol

 

[Misslara]

It's not unusual for the roots of the upper teeth to lie right under the sinus lining. If the tooth becomes infected they will display signs like you describe. My own bitch had an occasional discharge and sneezing which I initially put down to allergy. It was only whilst she was under a GA to remove a lower tooth that a discovery was made that she had an infected upper molar. I was there during the GA and the tooth was actually decayed on the root under the gum. I don't think it would of been found only for the fact the vet was doing some scaling during the GA and the scaler goes along the gum line so problems can indeed be missed. The sneezing and the dripping nose stopped straight away.
Yes GA has risks, yes perhaps the vet should of checked but in fairness in urgent situations like anaesthetising a dog with possible heart problems, dental problems may not neccesarily be high on the agenda. With hindsight, it would of been better for them to check, with hindsight, it would of been better for you also to mention a bad tooth as you'd noticed it too but shutting door after horse has bolted is pointless.

If the tooth that's 'black' is an upper tooth, I'd want that removing as it's a potential culprit to her nasal problems and could be a red herring to her symptoms.

With regards to heart, infected teeth can contribute to bacterial endocarditis (infection of the heart valves) BUT in the humans I've experienced with it they've a) had an existing heart valve problem or b) they've been very ill individuals with a mouthful of grossly decayed teeth and other health issues (specifically, immuno compromised). Dogs can also get bacterial endocarditis but the full blood count you've had done should of rang any bells if this was the case. But by all means check with the vet that this is the case.

There is something niggling me, especially with you saying another vet was treating the cough for 3 months prior to all this being found. Can you check with the vet that lungworm isn't a possibility? I think the swabs would of found but I'd sooner mention it and be wrong than not mention it all.

Wishing Tippy the best of luck. :luck:

Jac

Thankyou for your reply very imformative ! she was tested for lungworm right at the start the other vet treated her for what he thought was kennel cough but we have another little dog and when he did not pick it up i began to think something else was wrong myself so changed vets.

I didn't mention the tooth as Tippy was so poorly at the the time i just didn't think and as i was told this was all coming from her heart i left it in the vets hands.

This little whippet has no insurance and we love her to bits and she is having the best love care and attention we can give she she costs us a fourtune but hey whats money..lol

 

[robandkay]

Good luck with Tippy, - she has been through so much already.

On the positive side it looks like you might now have an answer to some of her problems and more information has got to be a step forwards.

Keep us informed and :huggles: to Tippy.