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Just joined as my two little puppies just arrived home.
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Hello and welcome - two puppies, that's quite an undertaking!

You may already be aware of this but if not, please do some reading about littermate syndrome. It affects any pups of a similar age, not just actual siblings.
 
Lovely pups and nice secure garden, though you may have to add an overhang as the pointy-eared one (is that a malinois?) gets bigger.

Good advice from JoanneF about being ready for littermate syndrome.

Welcome to the Board.
 
JoanneF said:
Hello and welcome - two puppies, that's quite an undertaking!

You may already be aware of this but if not, please do some reading about littermate syndrome. It affects any pups of a similar age, not just actual siblings.
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Thanks for letting me know this. I will look.
 
Biswajit said:
Thanks for letting me know this. I will look.
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just have a look but it talks about puppies from same litter but my two beauties are from two different litter born and raised atleast 15 miles apart.
 
Today is day eight with them and house training is complete. no accidents! and basic command training is on.

Can I have help with feeding them. If some body can help with any high level rules. Like basics are 1 German shepherd female born on 20/04/2021 (mother is 30 kg and 58 cm high) and the other XL Bullie male born on 07/05/2021 (father is 62 kg and 55 cm high).
 
Littermate syndrome can affect any two dogs of similar age, the reason your source talks about siblings is only because that would be a more common situation. But the same issues will apply to your two.
 
What are you feeding them at the moment?
 
Biswajit said:
just have a look but it talks about puppies from same litter but my two beauties are from two different litter born and raised atleast 15 miles apart.
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Also the doc says - However, that does not mean once your puppy is that little but older you can’t introduce a second puppy. This way they will be at two completely different stages and more importantly they will not be genetically related. - my puppies are not genetically related but what is the suggestion? shall I have to raise the two puppies in two different home? Please suggest.
 
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JoanneF said:
Littermate syndrome can affect any two dogs of similar age, the reason your source talks about siblings is only because that would be a more common situation. But the same issues will apply to your two.
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what's the advise now please? Give one to somebody?
 
Biswajit said:
what's the advise now please? Give one to somebody?
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It really depends on whether you are prepared to put the time and effort into their training. Raising two is do-able, but you need to train everything three times; once with each dog separately and then with both dogs together. They also need to be separate a lot so they can function effectively as individuals as well as together. If you can do that, and you have the time, resources and skill to do it properly there is no need to give one away.

However, if you think now that that is too daunting, there is absolutely no shame in admitting that and rehoming one of them sooner rather than later, while it will be easier on both you and the dog.
 
JudyN said:
What are you feeding them at the moment?
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I am feeding them 'Harrington Puppy Complete Rich in Turkey & Rice Dry Dog Food 10kg' 3 times a day 100 gm to each in each feed. i.e. 600 gm altogether in a day.
 
JoanneF said:
It really depends on whether you are prepared to put the time and effort into their training. Raising two is do-able, but you need to train everything three times; once with each dog separately and then with both dogs together. They also need to be separate a lot so they can function effectively as individuals as well as together. If you can do that, and you have the time, resources and skill to do it properly there is no need to give one away.

However, if you think now that that is too daunting, there is absolutely no shame in admitting that and rehoming one of them sooner rather than later, while it will be easier on both you and the dog.
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I put the advert for sale on the site with the offer of either at a cheaper price. This is my first option as I have heavily invested on both of them. Thanks for the advise.
 
Biswajit said:
what's the advise now please? Give one to somebody?
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As Joanne explained...
Our girl had some pups last year and we ended up keeping two of them. We have over come most of the issues by separating the pups as much as possible...but it doesn't mean they have to live in separate addresses. We walked them separately or when out in a group they were each paired up with a separate adult dog. Once out of puppy pen they were offered separate sleeping areas and it took, they choose to sleep separately. Ours have separate travel cages in a car. Try to offer all new life experiences individually at first so they build up their own courage and make their own mind up about things. It can be done but takes effort and as they reach maturity, then they are balanced individuals. Ours are now 9 months old and coming into their teenage stage and because they are now older and able to keep up with adult dog(s)...we do tend to go out more as a group and they do not behave at all like the youngsters would need each other.
 
Biswajit said:
I am feeding them 'Harrington Puppy Complete Rich in Turkey & Rice Dry Dog Food 10kg' 3 times a day 100 gm to each in each feed. i.e. 600 gm altogether in a day.
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Harringtons have a feeding guide here: Puppy Complete Rich in Turkey & Rice Dry Dog Food 10kg Note that this is based on the expected adult weight of the pups. But individual pups vary a lot in how much they need, so keep an eye out on their weight gain and appetite. Puppies can often be fed according to appetite, though some are gluttons - and with two of them, they may feel the need to 'compete' (it's always best to feed separately).

I'm interested in why you chose these breeds, as they're very different - would love to know what drew you to them :) I'm sure you realised that rearing two pups would be hard work, so it would be worth putting in the effort to avoid littermate syndrome - when you sell a pup, there's no guarantee it will end up in a good home unless you're prepared to vet potential buyers. Good luck whatever you decide.
 
Finsky said:
As Joanne explained...
Our girl had some pups last year and we ended up keeping two of them. We have over come most of the issues by separating the pups as much as possible...but it doesn't mean they have to live in separate addresses. We walked them separately or when out in a group they were each paired up with a separate adult dog. Once out of puppy pen they were offered separate sleeping areas and it took, they choose to sleep separately. Ours have separate travel cages in a car. Try to offer all new life experiences individually at first so they build up their own courage and make their own mind up about things. It can be done but takes effort and as they reach maturity, then they are balanced individuals. Ours are now 9 months old and coming into their teenage stage and because they are now older and able to keep up with adult dog(s)...we do tend to go out more as a group and they do not behave at all like the youngsters would need each other.
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This is reassuring for those who has support at home but being alone at home and WFH full time and very busy at work most times and raising two puppies is really feeling very difficult to me. I'm so unfortunate that and being shared my intention with both the puppy sellers have not suggested any thing like this. I have to offer one of the puppy to another home, may be free, to be mentally stress free that I am not taking a challenge too much. I have planned this for years now that I will have two dogs so that they can be happy but my understanding was so wrong. I will look out for somebody who is interested and willing to take my XL American Bully free .
 
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JudyN said:
Harringtons have a feeding guide here: Puppy Complete Rich in Turkey & Rice Dry Dog Food 10kg Note that this is based on the expected adult weight of the pups. But individual pups vary a lot in how much they need, so keep an eye out on their weight gain and appetite. Puppies can often be fed according to appetite, though some are gluttons - and with two of them, they may feel the need to 'compete' (it's always best to feed separately).

I'm interested in why you chose these breeds, as they're very different - would love to know what drew you to them :) I'm sure you realised that rearing two pups would be hard work, so it would be worth putting in the effort to avoid littermate syndrome - when you sell a pup, there's no guarantee it will end up in a good home unless you're prepared to vet potential buyers. Good luck whatever you decide.
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I need help to rehome the XL American Bully free, can the forum be able to help me at my difficult time?
 
You need to contact the breeder - a good breeder will take the dog back.
 
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